tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7846189835239594160.post1596862307971975142..comments2024-03-28T11:33:47.635-04:00Comments on southern orders: A PRODUCT OF CATHOLIC EDUCATION IN WARNER ROBINS AND MACON, GEORGIA, NEW MISS AMERICA HAS CLASS!Fr. Allan J. McDonaldhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16986575955114152639noreply@blogger.comBlogger12125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7846189835239594160.post-45466607197264735132015-09-21T21:19:32.707-04:002015-09-21T21:19:32.707-04:00
I look around the community and I see a multitud...<br /><br />I look around the community and I see a multitude of ecclesial groups-Orthodox, Lutherans, Episcopalians, Methodists, Baptists and others .If I could trace the geneology of the members of these groups back in time I would come to one church only, the One, Holy, Catholic and Apostolic Church founded by Christ and headed by a Pope, the successor to St Peter. That is one thing, if nothing else, that these ecclesial groups have in common- they are no longer under the Vicar of Christ, and this according to their view, even if the Catholic Church accepts them as being in the penumbra of the Holy Roman Church. Can the Holy Spirit work through members of these other faith communities? Sure.God above all knows how to make the best of this sad and tragic situation that exists and has existed for hundreds of years. We must still pray for what we should hope for, and that is the eventual unity of all Christians back to the one Faith and the one Church under the one God and having the one Truth. Georgenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7846189835239594160.post-25238020040516518682015-09-21T11:16:38.087-04:002015-09-21T11:16:38.087-04:00Anonymous at 6:46,
As Flavius alludes, while the ...Anonymous at 6:46,<br /><br />As Flavius alludes, while the Catholic Church (inexplicably) allows Orthodox to receive Holy Communion at the Catholic Mass under certain conditions, an Orthodox doing so would excommunicate him or herself by doing so. This makes sense for many reasons, most of them having to do with the vast difference between Orthodox and Catholic ecclesiology. <br /><br />For the Orthodox, Catholics do not have actual bishop or priests, which means Catholics do not have the Real Presence. The Orthodox hold to a rather strict understanding of St. Cyprian's ecclesiology, which can be simply stated as there are "no sacraments outside the Church." Since the Orthodox do not believe that Catholics are inside the Church (they reject the so-called two lung theory put forward by John Paul II, for example), there are no sacraments in the Catholic Church from the Orthodox perspective.<br /><br />In a sense, it is difficult to understand their teaching since they are not overly concerned with making it palatable to those outside the Church as the post-Vatican II Roman Church is (in the sense that the post-conciliar Roman Church will do anything to avoid giving offense, including an overt failure to uphold our own ecclesiological doctrines).<br /><br />Suffice it to say, the Roman Catholic teaching on the Orthodox is just as firm as the Orthodox teaching on the Catholics. It's just that our current teaching is tempered by a nicer tone. The Orthodox do not take that same tactic in many circumstances -- they are unafraid to say that they believe us to be heretics and schismatics; whereas, the Roman Catholic prelates are afraid of using these terms to describe anyone (probably because they are best used to describe themselves).Lefebvriannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7846189835239594160.post-69463886707172861172015-09-20T21:02:02.102-04:002015-09-20T21:02:02.102-04:00Anon,
No, she likely didn't—nor do the Protes...Anon,<br /><br />No, she likely didn't—nor do the Protestant students there. My cousin goes to MDS, and he's not Catholic, but they had their school Mass for the new school year, so he and his mom went. It's possible she did, but considering she's active in her Orthodox parish, it means she's not excommunicated, so it's not like it matters now.<br /><br />(I don't know her personally or anything; I've encountered her from time to time when my parish does things with the Greek one.)Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00554830859411216515noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7846189835239594160.post-9297935356132835272015-09-20T19:00:06.806-04:002015-09-20T19:00:06.806-04:00Are Mount DeSales students required to attend scho...Are Mount DeSales students required to attend school Masses at St. Joseph from time to time? Of course, St. Joseph school has a weekly school Mass, if I am not mistaken, but unsure about Mount DeSales students. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7846189835239594160.post-8152602429089047462015-09-20T18:50:35.568-04:002015-09-20T18:50:35.568-04:00I think, but could be wrong, that Orthodox discipl...I think, but could be wrong, that Orthodox discipline would not allow Betty to receive Holy Communion. I think the Catholic Church would allow it.Fr. Allan J. McDonaldhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16986575955114152639noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7846189835239594160.post-29207483114727087992015-09-20T18:46:27.197-04:002015-09-20T18:46:27.197-04:00So, Betty was not able to received Holy Communion ...So, Betty was not able to received Holy Communion during Masses that were attended by the Mount DeSales student body? I get a bit confused when it comes to our Orthodox brothers and sisters. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7846189835239594160.post-12577977948336298672015-09-20T17:25:55.539-04:002015-09-20T17:25:55.539-04:00FH, Yes, she is Catholic, but just not in full com...FH, Yes, she is Catholic, but just not in full communion. We can only hope that one day she will be in full communion with the Church, but they are pretty darn close already! Praise God.Fr. Allan J. McDonaldhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16986575955114152639noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7846189835239594160.post-41209923009115237162015-09-20T17:18:26.061-04:002015-09-20T17:18:26.061-04:00Anon @1:09:
No, she's Orthodox. She goes to H...Anon @1:09:<br /><br />No, she's Orthodox. She goes to Holy Cross in Macon.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00554830859411216515noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7846189835239594160.post-23494538357307270442015-09-20T16:53:38.359-04:002015-09-20T16:53:38.359-04:00There is nothing wrong with men looking at pretty ...There is nothing wrong with men looking at pretty girls. The beach is the same thing, it just isn't sponsored. Anonymous @ 10:14 are you sure you are not a Baptist? I'll bet you a steak dinner that few, if any, of those girls are virgins, BTW. LOL!Calvin of Hipponoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7846189835239594160.post-82008309915347732182015-09-20T13:09:41.088-04:002015-09-20T13:09:41.088-04:00Was she a parishioner of St. Joseph? Was she a parishioner of St. Joseph? Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7846189835239594160.post-12947175390107014492015-09-20T11:25:22.764-04:002015-09-20T11:25:22.764-04:00Yeah....and don't y'all love the swimsuit ...Yeah....and don't y'all love the swimsuit competition? The bikinis are my favorite part. Aren't they a sin though? macho of hipponoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7846189835239594160.post-56626993136328529922015-09-20T10:14:10.547-04:002015-09-20T10:14:10.547-04:00Nothing against Ms. Cantrell, whom I'm sure is...Nothing against Ms. Cantrell, whom I'm sure is a very nice and talented young lady, but pageants like this are just more TV sleaze. They are remnants of the pagan events where young "virgins" were displayed and auctioned off. Seeing pictures of these young women brazenly strutting about in what they call "swim suits" is really not fit for Catholics. But it is a good sign of Mount De Sales "values."Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com