tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7846189835239594160.post1286286429518748330..comments2024-03-28T20:30:10.681-04:00Comments on southern orders: PROPHET OR EXTREMIST OR BOTH? RAYMOND LEO CARDINAL BURKEFr. Allan J. McDonaldhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16986575955114152639noreply@blogger.comBlogger30125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7846189835239594160.post-18253059139692551882014-11-16T11:42:43.902-05:002014-11-16T11:42:43.902-05:00I would rather follow His Grace Cardinal Burke who...I would rather follow His Grace Cardinal Burke who I know will lead my soul to heaven, not the Jesuit who only calls himself Bishop of Rome and not Pope. Enough of this farce already confusion reigns all over, Pope Benedict please come back!!!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7846189835239594160.post-77164183738983508432014-11-16T11:37:23.130-05:002014-11-16T11:37:23.130-05:00Shame on you for those filthy remarks about Archbi...Shame on you for those filthy remarks about Archbishop Marcel Lefebve Daniel. He is the one who saved the Mass of All Times from the destruction of the modernists and your Novus Ordo service will die out soon. He was no supporter of the "Vichy" regime or the German occupation forces get your facts right!!! He was a son of the Church who will be raised up on our altars one day!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7846189835239594160.post-52871937349557124332014-11-16T10:24:25.985-05:002014-11-16T10:24:25.985-05:00Archbishop Lefebvre's father worked for Britis...Archbishop Lefebvre's father worked for British Intelligence which led to his arrest and death in a concentration camp.<br /><br />I refuse to call Hitler's genocidal 'Final Solution' the Holocaust. In the Old Law a holocaust is a burnt offering - are people suggesting that the Nazis sacrificed the Jews in order to appease God?<br /><br />To deny the existence of the mass-murder of Jews is historically perverse but should not in itself be a criminal offence. To argue about the numbers involved, or to question whether (say) Auschwitz-Birkenau had the capacity to process the numbers 'officially' claimed is a legitimate historical enquiry. The number of victims of Stalin, Mao or Pol Pot is still disputed but certainly exceeds the number of Jews liquidated by Hitler.<br /><br />Nor is it anti-Semitic to question the activities of the ADL and the Simon Wiesenthal Centre. Wiesenthal himself has been posthumously exposed as a fraud, and history is too important to be allowed to be manipulated and re-written by any particular group, whatever its political and financial clout.John Nolanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09027156691859606002noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7846189835239594160.post-34281333977049899542014-11-16T06:07:38.677-05:002014-11-16T06:07:38.677-05:00This Reid fellow is sure intolerant. If there are...This Reid fellow is sure intolerant. If there are people that value the long rich tradition of the Church and find spiritual value in that and a way to Christ, why shouldn't they be allowed to exist and have their say in the Church. Surely, a more traditional Western spirituality has as much right to be in the Church as any Eastern rite. Charles Gnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7846189835239594160.post-3116907971166187872014-11-15T22:08:58.189-05:002014-11-15T22:08:58.189-05:00Time for another glass of wine, this pontificate i...Time for another glass of wine, this pontificate is a headache for me.Православный физикhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11313371333531421128noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7846189835239594160.post-15935835391708885152014-11-15T18:33:58.384-05:002014-11-15T18:33:58.384-05:00Us versus them.....The righteous versus the Pope.....Us versus them.....The righteous versus the Pope..."And the beat goes on....and the beat goes on."<br /><br />Come, let me give you a hug...and let's sing "They Will Know We Are Christians By Our Love".Tevyenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7846189835239594160.post-75438046091452337802014-11-15T17:58:03.135-05:002014-11-15T17:58:03.135-05:00Maybe instead of Athanasius contra Mundum, it shou...Maybe instead of Athanasius contra Mundum, it should be Burke contra Mundum.<br /><br />Like Athanasius had to do during the time the church embraced Arianism, Burke needs to stay the course for the Gospel while the Church continues in this time of confusion. <br /><br />And pray God gives us another set of Cappadocian Fathers.<br /><br />Mark <br />The Anglican PriestAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7846189835239594160.post-44669043144095446732014-11-15T17:39:49.088-05:002014-11-15T17:39:49.088-05:00The "right" would seem to be getting mor...The "right" would seem to be getting more and more "extreme" if the "left" kept going left and the right hadn't moved at all.<br /><br />I don't think anyone on the right is proposing anything that wasn't considered "normal" in the 1950's.<br /><br />What has happened since then? More legalized and legislated forms of slavery disguised as freedoms. The left cannot get "left enough" to satisfy their desires so they will always want more -- gluttony.<br /><br />I hope there is no schism. Even if all the present stewards were wrong in one way or another, it is no excuse to break away from Christ's Church.<br /><br />When/If Christ cleans out His Church will He clean out the schisms? Or will the schisms have already made their choice and have to lie in it? Maybe we need to wander for forty years so that people can make up their minds.Paulnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7846189835239594160.post-45056927390214296332014-11-15T16:32:09.424-05:002014-11-15T16:32:09.424-05:00Well Father it explains why my blood pressure shot...Well Father it explains why my blood pressure shot off the scale and smoke was shooting out my ears! Vile website. It is good to know What the enemy is up to, (and they are tools of the Evil one as far as I am concerned). I pray that St Thomas More and Venerable Fulton Sheen watch over you when you go there and other places in enemy territory! +JMJ+Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04527703911965463551noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7846189835239594160.post-85172445583622199252014-11-15T16:25:05.574-05:002014-11-15T16:25:05.574-05:00I try to present differing perspectives and how th...I try to present differing perspectives and how the world reports and manipulates Pope Francis compared to Pope Benedict !Fr. Allan J. McDonaldhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16986575955114152639noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7846189835239594160.post-87959621964395761402014-11-15T16:24:35.254-05:002014-11-15T16:24:35.254-05:00I believe there will be a schism. I think that is...I believe there will be a schism. I think that is God's way of removing the liberal element out of the Church. The orthodox will go one way and the liberals, Kasper et al, the other way and the majority will follow.<br /><br />The upheaval that we are going through now is widely reported in the prophecies of numerous Catholic saints that there would be a great apostasy in the Church and for a short time the Church would go underground but will emerge to be restored to her former splendor.<br /><br />The Church is suffering because of the horrific child abuse scandal among other things. <br /><br />Much like St Thomas More before him, Cardinal Burke is a holy, good and just man who is following the Way, the Truth and the Light which is the only way for those who wish to remain Catholic.<br /><br />JanAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7846189835239594160.post-83813872788234147952014-11-15T16:22:28.238-05:002014-11-15T16:22:28.238-05:00One more thing...I noticed the source of this Arti...One more thing...I noticed the source of this Article..The Huffington Post? That progressive, relative secularist, house of questionable journalistic ability...who cares what they think? They surely don't understand what the Catholic Church is, was, or should be, nor are they interested in our well being. I'm Disappointed Father, you normally have better standards. I'm certainly not going to worry over their analysis.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04527703911965463551noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7846189835239594160.post-83211468700050439292014-11-15T16:16:51.033-05:002014-11-15T16:16:51.033-05:00Is this is where we are as a Church? That someone ...Is this is where we are as a Church? That someone like Cardinal Burke, who actually holds to the doctrines and magesterium of the Church, believes that discussion should be based on actual Catholic Theology and rationality is an extremist? Cardinal Burke is moderate in his tone, and everything he brings up is actual Church teaching and truth. Wow. I've had enough. Between this article and the USCCB trying to pass off the Synod as not controversial, and the constant chatter and over analysis of the situation I think I need to step away from paying attention to this stuff, or my soul will be injured. I want this craziness to end so badly. It's bad enough the world has turned in to moral quick sand, but this going on in the Church, which I need to be Rock to hold on to is worse. I am very disappointed with Pope Francis for creating this mess...not everything needs to be stirred up and debated. WE DID THAT ALREADY. 50 years, nearly my entire life, this has been going on. Hey, how about we take Jesus at his word and the Church fathers at theirs too. How about we stop trying to find the loop holes and actually be Catholics!!! <br /><br />Sorry about the rant, but I've had enough. I miss Pope Benedict...he was actually sorting out what Vatican II meant, instead of just continuing the Chaos. <br /><br />God bless.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04527703911965463551noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7846189835239594160.post-33559397603812594332014-11-15T16:11:42.343-05:002014-11-15T16:11:42.343-05:00Is Francis still Bishop of Rome? Oh, well, back t...Is Francis still Bishop of Rome? Oh, well, back to sleep. Wake me up when the nightmare is over.Templarhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18204866760862707908noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7846189835239594160.post-40172763499241934582014-11-15T15:08:43.533-05:002014-11-15T15:08:43.533-05:00I think we can respectfully discuss the religious ...I think we can respectfully discuss the religious tenants of modern Judaism, but there should be no room in our conversations for attacks against Jews as an ethnic group, or for dismissal of Semitic suffering at the hands of Nazis. Rood Screenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09816036539243214384noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7846189835239594160.post-70481177989616106542014-11-15T14:35:48.328-05:002014-11-15T14:35:48.328-05:00In my previous post I wrote:'Let us pray for P...In my previous post I wrote:'Let us pray for Pope Francis and the rest of the hierarchy that the Church makes it through this troublesome period of her history." I don't want any one to take from that any doubt on my part that Church will survive to the end of time. I should have added " without another schism occurring."Georgenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7846189835239594160.post-31104126777449723172014-11-15T14:13:04.173-05:002014-11-15T14:13:04.173-05:00Can anyone substantiate the allegations that eithe...Can anyone substantiate the allegations that either Lefebvre or Williamson are anti-semetic?Marchttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13510317669833026685noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7846189835239594160.post-3271560399049353802014-11-15T14:04:14.917-05:002014-11-15T14:04:14.917-05:00Perhaps Daniel is confusing Archbishop Lefebre wit...Perhaps Daniel is confusing Archbishop Lefebre with the former SSPX bishop, Williamson, who is well known for his extremist anti-Semitic views and Holocaust denial and who has now been expelled from SSPX for various acts of disobedience.<br /><br /><br />Anonymous 2noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7846189835239594160.post-83355430142307131982014-11-15T13:43:32.784-05:002014-11-15T13:43:32.784-05:00This comment has been removed by the author.Rood Screenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09816036539243214384noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7846189835239594160.post-54398991794681708612014-11-15T13:32:31.423-05:002014-11-15T13:32:31.423-05:00ArchBishop Lefebvre's father was with the Fren...ArchBishop Lefebvre's father was with the French underground and DIED IN A NAZI CONCENTRATION CAMP. Pro Nazi, huh? Shame on Father McDonald for posting an inaccurate story from a liberal rag. Shame on Father McDonald for stating that because Cardinal Burke is "traditional" and disobeyed Pope Francis that he was demoted. It was rumored long before the SinNod that Cardinal Burke was on his way out. I guess ecumenism doesn't apply to traditional Catholics?Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14213933562580727204noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7846189835239594160.post-46980522923703556782014-11-15T12:45:55.237-05:002014-11-15T12:45:55.237-05:00Actually to properly interpret the pastoral counci...Actually to properly interpret the pastoral council of Vatican II as Pope Benedict desired!Fr. Allan J. McDonaldhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16986575955114152639noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7846189835239594160.post-86104852018702132532014-11-15T12:43:10.434-05:002014-11-15T12:43:10.434-05:00Anon, without us versus them and me versus you, th...Anon, without us versus them and me versus you, there would be no point in this blog. People would have nothing to say. <br /><br />The purpose of the blog, it seems, is to denigrate VII.Tevyenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7846189835239594160.post-47825170720870737002014-11-15T12:27:37.343-05:002014-11-15T12:27:37.343-05:00Daniel,
Wasn't Lefebvre's father a member...Daniel,<br /><br />Wasn't Lefebvre's father a member of the French Resistance, and didn't he die in a Nazi concentration camp? Rood Screenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09816036539243214384noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7846189835239594160.post-26265416178633208252014-11-15T12:05:42.386-05:002014-11-15T12:05:42.386-05:00Daniel:
Bishop Lefebre is symptomatic of what has ...Daniel:<br />Bishop Lefebre is symptomatic of what has transpired within the Catholic Church over the past number of decades. He and his group represent one reaction to some of the disturbing changes, such as the diminution of reverence and the loss of belief, which have occurred within the Church over the past number of decades. No one is proposing him for sainthood and it should also be recognized that not all the orthodox faithful align themselves with his solution to what has transpired since Vatican II.<br />Georgenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7846189835239594160.post-73519193977576089842014-11-15T12:02:42.652-05:002014-11-15T12:02:42.652-05:00Daniel, Abp. Lefebvre's father died in a conce...Daniel, Abp. Lefebvre's father died in a concentration camp...Marchttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13510317669833026685noreply@blogger.com