tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7846189835239594160.post8986551134687629309..comments2024-03-28T20:30:10.681-04:00Comments on southern orders: IF UNITED METHODISTS CAN DO IT, YOU'D THINK UNITED CATHOLICS COULD TOO!Fr. Allan J. McDonaldhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16986575955114152639noreply@blogger.comBlogger9125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7846189835239594160.post-4530693392571623922012-07-23T16:17:08.796-04:002012-07-23T16:17:08.796-04:00There is an ongoing discussion going on about GIRM...There is an ongoing discussion going on about GIRM 48 and the approval of Catholic hymnals at the Musica Sacra forum. The GIRM is quite clear about the issue, that a hymnal must be approved either by the local diocesan bishop, or by the national Bishop's conference. In Canada, the conference has approved a national Catholic hymnal.<br />In USA, however, the USCCB claims that what they are doing (allowing competition) is their way of interpreting GIRM, and that the Vatican supports them. Go figure.... <br /><br />http://forum.musicasacra.com/forum/discussion/7149/usccb-secretariat-of-divine-worship-responds-to-question-about-general-instruction-of-roman-missalVictor W.noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7846189835239594160.post-10523129820437276582012-07-23T16:02:45.421-04:002012-07-23T16:02:45.421-04:00Actually, the topic presented was if the Methodist...Actually, the topic presented was if the Methodists can do it, you'd think we could too!<br /><br />Ultimately, we can do it. But with many parishes dominated by Spirit of Vatican II--change the liturgy, change the world--folks, there are hurdles.<br /><br />It would be a good beginning to get the Tabernacle back to its rightful place, and to introduce a prie-dieu, at the least, to accommodate those of us who wish to kneel to receive. If there is sufficient use of the prie-dieu, making the case for a communion rail becomes easier.William Meyerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07461907300761131481noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7846189835239594160.post-38220612301562683082012-07-23T15:23:55.561-04:002012-07-23T15:23:55.561-04:00k kids, let's get back on topic. This buildin...k kids, let's get back on topic. This building.ytcnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7846189835239594160.post-83933844454087111302012-07-23T14:12:51.174-04:002012-07-23T14:12:51.174-04:00It becomes depressing to see various protestant ch...It becomes depressing to see various protestant churches and services which put to shame some of the local parishes. <br /><br />I understand the role of the local libbers in all this, staffing, as they do, the committees, ministries, and RelEd dept, but what of the bishop?William Meyerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07461907300761131481noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7846189835239594160.post-6400964486085633362012-07-23T12:40:44.790-04:002012-07-23T12:40:44.790-04:00Dear Anonymous #1:
Your take on sexual abuse, lit...Dear Anonymous #1:<br /><br />Your take on sexual abuse, liturgy, "the organization" and whatever else peeves you indicates a lack of awareness that would qualify you for Special Ed. You apparently don't have a clue about what caused abuse or what Fr. M should keep to himself.<br /><br />Please go troll some other site. You're out of your element here.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7846189835239594160.post-7003227108859806142012-07-23T11:28:11.099-04:002012-07-23T11:28:11.099-04:00Perhaps united Catholics could do it too, if the t...Perhaps <i><b>united</b></i> Catholics could do it too, if the term "united Catholics" were not sadly a misnomer at the present time.Henry Edwardsnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7846189835239594160.post-53395176289089826752012-07-23T10:25:45.666-04:002012-07-23T10:25:45.666-04:00Your interpretation of sexual abuse and posts I ha...Your interpretation of sexual abuse and posts I have written on the liturgy are incredibly ignorant.Fr. Allan J. McDonaldhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16986575955114152639noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7846189835239594160.post-70925663166367063212012-07-23T10:21:05.548-04:002012-07-23T10:21:05.548-04:00Wonder if the Vatican is watching the NCAA presser...Wonder if the Vatican is watching the NCAA presser tto see what oversight looks like. Reckless disregard for the welfare of children....more concern for the organization. Hope you get the hymnal, altar rail, music, and orientation you think so essential. Your blog that communicated that the Mass is over when the priest consumes was incredible. Distribution of communion to the people is not an essential part. That mindset brought us years of abuse. Even if that is a liturgical truth I'd keep it to myself.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7846189835239594160.post-718902019583154652012-07-23T08:00:28.104-04:002012-07-23T08:00:28.104-04:00I am actually quite pleasantly surprised with this...I am actually quite pleasantly surprised with this building. I must say, I like it very, very much.<br /><br />There would have to be some cosmetic additions like statuary, iconography and painting. That awful choir seating in the apse would also have to be ripped out and shoved upstairs into a loft. But other than the choir seating I cannot think of anything currently present that I would change. Just some additions.<br /><br />I think what makes this such a good rendition of modern is the fact that it relies quite heavily on traditional forms. The colonnades and side aisles are wonderful. The semi-vaulted ceiling is also great--I say semi-vaulted because the curve is rather low. Something that I think is rather genius is the apse area. They have essentially "created" an apse.<br /><br />If you notice, the back wall is flat. This is of course not particularly traditional in Catholic architecture, as almost all respectable basilican (which is what this is) or cruciform plan Catholic churches have at least a small convex apse. However, what they have done with the wooden structures is they have essentially made an artificial apse. The structures are curved. Perhaps I would have curved them more severely, but you get my point. This is, in my opinion, a great way for a church to create an apse without having to spend more money on more masonry.<br /><br />I think the least pleasing element is the altar. I do not like it. It is rather too small for the area. Also, it would be much better in marble. However most all Catholic churches have marble altars. With a slightly (25%ish) bigger altar and, more importantly, a ciborium magnum over it, the sanctuary would be absolutely perfect. I think a ciborium would be absolutely spectacular in this space.<br /><br />So essentially I like this very much. However:<br /><br />1. Choir loft<br />2. Bigger, marble altar WITH ciborium magnum a MUST<br />3. Perhaps an elevated pulpit in a marble to complement the altar and ciborium<br /><br />Overall, this is an excellent attempt at modern, in my opinion. I am pleasantly surprised.ytcnoreply@blogger.com