tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7846189835239594160.post8650538702132273985..comments2024-03-28T05:17:04.006-04:00Comments on southern orders: WILLIAM ODDIE MAKES SENSE FOR US ORTHODOX CATHOLICS! AND RADICALIZING OF POLAR OPPOSITES BY THE HOLY FATHERFr. Allan J. McDonaldhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16986575955114152639noreply@blogger.comBlogger10125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7846189835239594160.post-89554685350580643372014-10-22T09:09:03.407-04:002014-10-22T09:09:03.407-04:00Gene, you and Pater really need to settle your dis...Gene, you and Pater really need to settle your disputes or at least hash them out more completely. If and when you do, I think you could set up pay per view and help fund the parish! ;-) JusadBellumnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7846189835239594160.post-43272863359106843632014-10-21T21:03:42.317-04:002014-10-21T21:03:42.317-04:00Shhh! Let Ignotus continue sleeping under his rock...Shhh! Let Ignotus continue sleeping under his rock...Genehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06672484450736725268noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7846189835239594160.post-63535424148584660342014-10-21T18:47:54.916-04:002014-10-21T18:47:54.916-04:00'Let loose forces he can't control'? H...'Let loose forces he can't control'? He's just beatified a pope who did just that.John Nolanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09027156691859606002noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7846189835239594160.post-12180349813239972542014-10-21T18:37:46.376-04:002014-10-21T18:37:46.376-04:00Anyone find it odd we havent' had any comments...Anyone find it odd we havent' had any comments from Pater Ignotius lately???Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7846189835239594160.post-70389498750610779022014-10-21T16:30:10.585-04:002014-10-21T16:30:10.585-04:00Surely it's clear by now that no clear reading...Surely it's clear by now that no clear reading of his intentions can be gotten from what Pope Francis says. His talk is simply too ambiguous and/or self-contradictory.<br /><br />However, his actions--his high-level appointments, for instance--make what he is perfectly clear. No ambiguity in his walk!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7846189835239594160.post-80887164596893505232014-10-21T15:08:27.587-04:002014-10-21T15:08:27.587-04:00Here's a unique and refreshing take from Robbi...Here's a unique and refreshing take from Robbie George.<br /><br />http://www.thepublicdiscourse.com/2014/10/13925/<br /><br />It's basically "don't panic" and parses the data rather than the spin quite well I think. JusadBellumnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7846189835239594160.post-45660890009960924482014-10-21T14:51:56.198-04:002014-10-21T14:51:56.198-04:00Prior to the internet, we only got word about the ...Prior to the internet, we only got word about the pope when the secular media highlighted something in the newspaper, the evening news or in a magazine. The only televised Mass we would get was Christmas Eve from St. Peter's and maybe Easter Sunday or at least a report.<br /><br />Now with the internet we see the pope too much. Liberals, even prior to the internet, when Pope John Paul II was getting so much coverage early in his papacy, would say, "I'm all poped out."<br /><br />I think we can say that those with ultramontane tendencies have obsessed on every word the pope says because every word and action is available on the internet. <br /><br />We need an OCD pill!Fr. Allan J. McDonaldhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16986575955114152639noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7846189835239594160.post-91502854171072270612014-10-21T14:47:30.837-04:002014-10-21T14:47:30.837-04:00His comments are mostly dead on...I do disagree on...His comments are mostly dead on...I do disagree on the point that the Pope is not a liberal. Through his appointments we've seen where he stands.<br /><br />While I don't believe he's to the level of Cardinal Kasper liberal, I do believe he's liberal, but just like at the synod, liberalism won't be able to win.Православный физикhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11313371333531421128noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7846189835239594160.post-81328722704067541682014-10-21T14:43:53.850-04:002014-10-21T14:43:53.850-04:00For the first year or so of this papacy I was very...For the first year or so of this papacy I was very concerned with trying to get a read on Francis, and I paid very close attention to everything he said, trying to "read the tea leaves". <br /><br />But the experience of this Synod has convinced me not to bother. Most of what he says is so ambiguous that you can read anything you want into it. <br /><br />For that reason, instead of grasping at what he might mean by this or that statement, I will do my best to ignore him, and just focus on the tangible, objective results that actually come to pass. Things like his appointments, and official documents. This is what I will "judge" him by.<br /><br />The final document from the Synod seems fine to me, other than the fact that it leaves the communion issue open. So, for better and for worse, this is the reality we are confronted with, and have to deal with. The rest is just fluff.<br />MRnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7846189835239594160.post-9804143182224551722014-10-21T14:28:09.067-04:002014-10-21T14:28:09.067-04:00In military planning one looks at capability not i...In military planning one looks at capability not intentions. Intentions after all can change on a dime but capability is hard to jin up and hard to hide.<br /><br />Thus we're pretty sure that Iran and North Korea's intentions are malevolent with respect to ICBMs and so we have just enough interceptors on ships and in Alaska to intercept up to 40 ICBMs coming over the North Pole.<br /><br />But England and France also have nuclear weapons. They have the capability but no intent of using them against us.<br /><br />Still, we have Aegis cruisers and destroyers with Standard missiles capable of ABM missions from the littorals - so if France or the UK ever launched on NY or DC we could probably shoot them down.<br /><br />What does the Catholic layman take from all this? Regardless of the Pope's intentions, and those of his various collaborators, assistants etc. what is the capability of someone in those positions for mischief?<br /><br />Ultimately what can laymen do if the hierarchy either goes silent (as in the Arian heresy) or the various cardinals and local Churches slide into schism or apostasy? Not much more than quietly clutch our rosaries and quietly go about seeking faithful priests for the sacraments.<br /><br />There's no a whole lot else we can do. But at our judgment Our Lord won't ask us about what OTHERS did or failed to do, He'll be asking us about what we did and failed to do.<br /><br />It's nice to have a saintly and scholarly Pope, cardinals, bishops, and pastors. It's great to point to edifying priests, deacons, and religious. But if they are not around then it's still our responsibility as confirmed Catholics to bear witness to the Lord and the faith come hell and high water.<br /><br />If all the pastors become cynics or atheists (as many did during the pressure of the French, Spanish, and Russian revolutions), it's still our duty to keep the faith.<br /><br />It may not be our duty to argue with them though. Or with the Pope. So in these controversies, as much as I want the Pope to walk with me towards Jesus, if he and the entire hierarchy go off to serve another god, that doesn't let me and my conscience off the hook. No one is going to stand in for me at the final judgment. <br /><br />This is what is called 'sensus ecclesiae' - it's how laity are involved in the sensus fidelium. When the prelates of the 13th century were largely corrupt it was the serfs and peasants' faith that shone. It was the Joans of Arc and others who stepped up to preserve the Faith. Francis was a deacon after all...many of the founders were just laity who stepped up.<br /><br />And so it always is. It's great to be led. But if they shepherds are not around then the sheep still must follow the master's call.JusadBellumnoreply@blogger.com