tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7846189835239594160.post8055267458894400233..comments2024-03-28T20:30:10.681-04:00Comments on southern orders: SEPARATING MEN AND WOMEN IN THE CHURCH DURING THE CELEBRATION OF MASS--HAVE YOU EVER EXPERIENCED IT?Fr. Allan J. McDonaldhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16986575955114152639noreply@blogger.comBlogger10125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7846189835239594160.post-46444630697730204412012-05-16T19:22:21.377-04:002012-05-16T19:22:21.377-04:00I never experienced the separation of men and wome...I never experienced the separation of men and women during Mass; however, my mother who was born in the 1920s and says that men sat on the left side on the church and the women on the right side of the church. Mom's parents where Lithuanian and they attended St. Francis in Youngstown Ohio.Jimhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08529803415876992278noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7846189835239594160.post-2656696558053888502012-05-16T17:47:18.851-04:002012-05-16T17:47:18.851-04:00The high schools in Macon were sexually segregated...The high schools in Macon were sexually segregated into the 70's. This caused the boys to really appreciate the girls a lot more. It also made for really great Friday and saturday night dates...LOL! Absence do make the heart (or whatever) grow fonder...Genehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06672484450736725268noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7846189835239594160.post-19721869515677670002012-05-16T14:28:10.455-04:002012-05-16T14:28:10.455-04:00I worked in Garmisch-Partenkirchen, Germany, for s...I worked in Garmisch-Partenkirchen, Germany, for six months in 1978. That Christmas I attended Mass at St. Martins Kirche (1734) with my friend's family. As I followed his wife and daughters to the pews, my friend redirected me to the left side pews where all the men sat. It was only then that I noticed the church was divided with men on one half of the church and women on the other half.<br /><br />I thought it was culturally different, and therefore interesting. I do not know if they still segregate the sexes.<br /><br />--Guy Powerghp95134https://www.blogger.com/profile/04678712613421370192noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7846189835239594160.post-77368090134941581512012-05-16T13:10:48.715-04:002012-05-16T13:10:48.715-04:00From the parish bulletin at reform-of-the-reform l...From the parish bulletin at reform-of-the-reform leader Prince of Peace Church (Taylors, SC):<br /><br />"Sunday Vespers and Benediction of the Most Blessed Sacrament will be celebrated<br />in Latin according to the Breviary of Pope Blessed John XXIII (1961) on the Sundays of<br />Eastertide from 29 April to 20 May at 4.30p. Booklets with English translations will be provided. Please join us and sing Vespers with us. <b>Women will sit on the Lady Altar side of the church and men on the St Joseph side, and chant back and forth.</b>"<br /><br />There's nothing odd or quaint about antiphonal prayer.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7846189835239594160.post-6859655720157424402012-05-16T13:01:11.660-04:002012-05-16T13:01:11.660-04:00If you go to a Sikh Gurdwara (temple) you will fin...If you go to a Sikh Gurdwara (temple) you will find that the men and women sit on different sides - it's not front or back, or upstairs or downstairs, so does not denote inequality. Incidentally, I admire the Sikhs, who rejected the superstition and caste system of Hinduism, and fought valiantly for the British Empire in two world wars (and incidentally stayed loyal during the Indian mutiny of 1857-8).<br /><br />Not long ago on a pilgrimage to Rome led by an Oratory priest, Mass was celebrated in S Georgio in Velabro, Newman's titular church. The orientation is as normal for Roman basilicas (east being away from the altar) and the congregation, divided on each side according to sex, all turned to face the doors for the Canon. Now, that's tradition for you!John Nolanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09027156691859606002noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7846189835239594160.post-91286338393518821722012-05-16T12:20:43.740-04:002012-05-16T12:20:43.740-04:00yes I have attended mass at a SSPX chapel in Mexic...yes I have attended mass at a SSPX chapel in Mexico City and the sexes were segregated. I liked itJacobnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7846189835239594160.post-27430645475730889542012-05-16T11:15:20.064-04:002012-05-16T11:15:20.064-04:00Heh, heh...I love this thread. I'm just having...Heh, heh...I love this thread. I'm just having mental images of Ignotus and Millie and others turning flips and gnashing their teeth. God, I love it...my heart is beating rapidly!Genehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06672484450736725268noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7846189835239594160.post-90947750280516130472012-05-16T08:55:02.526-04:002012-05-16T08:55:02.526-04:00I was a volunteer for the Jesuits in the late 70s ...I was a volunteer for the Jesuits in the late 70s at their mission on the Rosebud reservation in SD. There had been in force (and some still observed by custom) the practice of the men's side and the women's side in the churches.Marc in Eugenehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04331547981498637474noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7846189835239594160.post-30706063903659117402012-05-16T08:21:09.123-04:002012-05-16T08:21:09.123-04:00Great story, Father. But is that phrase "so ...Great story, Father. But is that phrase "so go I if not for the grace of God!" in reference to the lifestyle of poor Canadians or their lavatory arrangements?<br /><br />In all seriousness, when you meet a family like your aunt, it makes a person humble and appreciate what we have and how little we need.rcghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09131930849106490711noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7846189835239594160.post-88847354472079889992012-05-16T08:13:50.721-04:002012-05-16T08:13:50.721-04:00Father, you have to understand that Catholicism in...Father, you have to understand that Catholicism in Canada was for the longest time extremely Jansenistic and quite different than it was here.<br /><br />The Canadian government held onto Jansenism because it was a political tool for them.<br /><br />I am not saying separating men from women in Mass is Jansenistic, but there are many oddish Canadian Catholic practices that originate in the Jansenism that was perpetuated by the government.<br /><br />This is why now in Canada the liturgy is usually even worse than it is here in the US (THEY USE THE APOSTLES' CREED AT ALMOST EVERY MASS THAT REQUIRES A CREED WHAAAAT!), a sort of rebellion against what they perceive was universal in Catholicism prior to the Council. Their liturgies are usually very low quality and Protestantized.ytcnoreply@blogger.com