tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7846189835239594160.post7755551288225430783..comments2024-03-28T20:30:10.681-04:00Comments on southern orders: BOMBSHELL: WORLDWIDE EVALUATION OF SACRED MUSIC IN THE MODERN OR ORDINARY FORM OF THE MASSFr. Allan J. McDonaldhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16986575955114152639noreply@blogger.comBlogger8125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7846189835239594160.post-10365659806999714522017-03-06T16:40:33.514-05:002017-03-06T16:40:33.514-05:00Henry,
Can't say that I have. Quite frankly, ...Henry,<br /><br />Can't say that I have. Quite frankly, I would prefer no music rather than the mindless 4 hymn sandwich and this is from someone who has been involved in Church music for almost 50 years: Gregorian Chant Choir, Post-Vatican Disaster II Choirs, Cantor, and Organist.<br /><br />I think the Mass should be chanted: Ordinary and Propers (Latin or English) with the Celebrant chanting his parts. A motet sung at Communion or at Offertory AFTER the Propers have been sung would be fine, provided the music is suitable to be sung at Mass.TJMnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7846189835239594160.post-57019308816693261922017-03-06T13:36:11.924-05:002017-03-06T13:36:11.924-05:00TJM, have you ever attended a Mass where the 4-hym...TJM, have you ever attended a Mass where the 4-hymn sandwich (whether good, bad, or indifferent) made it better rather than worse? What a waste if time and effort. Not to speak of serving only the purpose of distracting people from prayerful participation in the liturgy. For instance, mindlessly singing some song during the offertory, rather than offering up their personal sacrifice in union with the sacrifice of Christ on the cross, praying that theirs will at least be worthy to be placed on the paten with the bread and in the chalice with the wine that will shortly become the Body and Blood of Christ that will first be offered to God in propitiation for our sins here below, and then be offered to the faithful in holy communion.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7846189835239594160.post-78530779446556910782017-03-05T17:02:32.493-05:002017-03-05T17:02:32.493-05:00I went to my daughter's Novus Ordo parish this...I went to my daughter's Novus Ordo parish this morning and it had both very positive things and some, not so positive. There was a children's choir and they sang the Sanctus and Agnus Dei in Latin quite beautifully (sorry, Bishop Trautman, it is NOT too hard). Many in the congregation joined in singing them. The priest and deacon wore lovely, gothic style vestments, the priest chanted much of the Mass (in English, but very nicely), and the bells were rung at the consecration. What would have otherwise been a very prayerful and beautiful celebration of the Mass was marred by the 4 hymn sandwich and the hymns were pretty insipid. If the hymns hadn't been sung at all, the tone and flow would have been far superior to the celebration of Mass at most Novus Ordo parishes. I am tempted to call the pastor and give him my feedback.TJMnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7846189835239594160.post-51541310474804357542017-03-05T15:32:12.089-05:002017-03-05T15:32:12.089-05:00I wonder whether there is any overlap there in the...I wonder whether there is any overlap there in the Minnesota Twin Cities area between the St. Mary's Chamber Singers and the St. Agnes Chamber Choir, which sings Renaissance Masses and polyphonic motets at St. Agnes Church in St. Paul. St. Agnes is one of the tiny handful of churches (that I know of) in the U.S. which never drank the post-Vatican II musical cool-aide, due to its long-time pastor (and titan of faithful Catholic church music in the U.S.), under whose direction it preserved the tradition of Gregorian chant and orchestral Masses at its ad orientem Latin Novus Ordo Masses.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7846189835239594160.post-68376201636308833202017-03-05T14:51:38.389-05:002017-03-05T14:51:38.389-05:00Byrd is a current fave among the EF schola in the ...Byrd is a current fave among the EF schola in the USA. <br /><br />Gene is not wrong, of course, but we can't wait to fix the NO Liturgy to fix the music. If anything, we have to get the music in synch with the Mass instead of interupting it. rcghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09131930849106490711noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7846189835239594160.post-26713664370284528432017-03-05T13:08:36.936-05:002017-03-05T13:08:36.936-05:00This morning (not having to sing for the EF which ...This morning (not having to sing for the EF which takes up three Sundays a month) I repaired to the Oxford Oratory for the Solemn Latin OF Mass. There was a visiting choir, the St Mary's Chamber Singers of the University of Minnesota, who are touring England at the moment. They sang the Byrd 4-part Mass, Morten Lauridsen's O Nata Lux (which is superb) and Palestrina's Sicut Cervus. <br /><br />They were outstanding. One hopes that they can contribute to the liturgy in their own country in the same way as they did here. I remember when I was an undergraduate (1969-1972) there was an excellent chamber choir, conducted by a Catholic, who were told in no uncertain terms that their music was not acceptable in the 'new' liturgy.<br /><br />Things have moved on - or have they? John Nolanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09027156691859606002noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7846189835239594160.post-29611075101344403392017-03-05T09:29:14.083-05:002017-03-05T09:29:14.083-05:00They have it backwards...fix the liturgy and the m...They have it backwards...fix the liturgy and the music will take care of itself.Genenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7846189835239594160.post-25990007876921674542017-03-05T09:06:11.839-05:002017-03-05T09:06:11.839-05:00Honestly, anyone wanting traditional Roman music s...Honestly, anyone wanting traditional Roman music should go to the nearest EF Sung Mass. Development of the OF is on hold until we have a pope interested in the subject. 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