tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7846189835239594160.post6692401537734284557..comments2024-03-28T12:59:52.914-04:00Comments on southern orders: CARDINAL SARAH'S COMPLETE LITURGICAL EDITORIAL IS EVEN BETTER THAN THE EXCERPTS THROWN TO US: IT IS STUNNING, REVOLUTIONARY AND SPECTACULAR!Fr. Allan J. McDonaldhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16986575955114152639noreply@blogger.comBlogger7125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7846189835239594160.post-16417422315504156302015-06-15T22:30:02.407-04:002015-06-15T22:30:02.407-04:00Oh Father, this is a wonderful interview by Cardin...Oh Father, this is a wonderful interview by Cardinal Sarah. I really hope there is some actual manifestation of this in the form of an Instruction. I think this is the only think I was disappointed with Pope Benedict, and that is he did not issue something akin to Summorum Pontificum for the ordinary form to address the deficient ars celeb of the Ordinary Form and associated abuses. He could have drawn on his vast writing on the liturgy. Hopefully Pope Francis will support Cardinal Sarah and we will see what Africa will bring to the whole of the Church. God Bless!CPT Tomhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09154486079844169215noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7846189835239594160.post-77268330680990673802015-06-14T19:00:52.505-04:002015-06-14T19:00:52.505-04:00The Rorate Coeli blog has an "exclusive"...The Rorate Coeli blog has an "exclusive" translation: http://rorate-caeli.blogspot.com/2015/06/exclusive-rorate-translation-cardinal.htmlFather Gnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7846189835239594160.post-55867848080514959092015-06-14T06:19:17.178-04:002015-06-14T06:19:17.178-04:00In the revised English Roman Missal, there isn'...In the revised English Roman Missal, there isn't the opportunity for ad libbing that the previous translation had. Unfortunately bishops and priests continue to ad lib where ad libbing has been removed.<br /><br />Particularly insidious was the ad libbing for the Form C of the Penitential Rite. That shouldn't happen anymore, but I suspect it does. <br /><br />I don't mind options. I like that there are more options for the Eucharistic Prayers, although I think there may be too many and not enough direction about when to use the Roman Canon.<br /><br />I think Eucharistic Prayer IV should be suppressed and that there should only be on Eucharistic Prayer for Reconciliation rather than two. The children's Eucharistic Prayers need suppression too (I had heard they may reappear, but haven't seen that yet).<br /><br />I like the Eucharistic Prayers for special occasions, I think there are four of these and I have used them for daily Mass. <br /><br />I think Eucharistic Prayer II should only be for daily Mass or Low Mass on a Sunday. <br /><br />With that said, though, I do think that the Ordinary Form with Prayers at the Foot of the Altar (which would in effect change to order of the Introductory Rite of the Ordinary Form) should replace what we have now. (By change in order, I refer to the fact that the greeting "The Lord be with you" would be moved to its traditional spot prior to the Collect rather than after the Sign of the Cross, which even the Episcopal Liturgy has maintained over the years in its revised liturgical books. <br /><br />Of course, if there is a recovery of "filled silence" such as the silent Canon, there is no need for additional Eucharistic Prayers at all. Will the silent Canon make a come back with Cardinal Sarah and his first step toward a reform or the reform with an appendix that allows for many elements of the Extraordinary Form to be inserted into the Ordinary Form?<br /><br />Time will tell!Fr. Allan J. McDonaldhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16986575955114152639noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7846189835239594160.post-52311238424703923252015-06-14T02:34:31.482-04:002015-06-14T02:34:31.482-04:00This is a good development. It also needs some mea...This is a good development. It also needs some meat (aka mandates)...That said, I hardly think adding even more options on top of the multitude of options that already exist in the OF of the Roman RIte is a good thing. <br /><br />I would do this, but take away the options, ab lib provisions, etc. Being realistic, the EF is not going to replace the OF, but I can see these movements putting to bed once and for all the Liturgical wars that exist in the Western church. <br /><br />Православный физикhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11313371333531421128noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7846189835239594160.post-13917067877532857392015-06-13T23:27:03.791-04:002015-06-13T23:27:03.791-04:00I am glad Dialogue heaped praise on it. I am very...I am glad Dialogue heaped praise on it. I am very impressed, too. rcghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09131930849106490711noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7846189835239594160.post-64841426217488245152015-06-13T20:31:02.962-04:002015-06-13T20:31:02.962-04:00So, I wonder (we should pray for this), will we be...So, I wonder (we should pray for this), will we be seeing some kind of mandate that the reforms in question be put in place in cathedrals?Michael (Quicumque Vult)(http://quicumquevult.wordpress.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7846189835239594160.post-12764539280491290202015-06-13T19:26:18.676-04:002015-06-13T19:26:18.676-04:00Thanks for posting this, Father McDonald. I'd...Thanks for posting this, Father McDonald. I'd say it is possibly your most significant post to date. And, these words of Cardinal Sarah rank only behind Pope Benedict's Summorum Pontificum as the most important so far this century.Rood Screenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09816036539243214384noreply@blogger.com