tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7846189835239594160.post6434556888534086961..comments2024-03-28T20:30:10.681-04:00Comments on southern orders: WOW! WOW! WOW! THIS SPOKANE NEWSPAPER INTERVIEW HITS THE BALL OUT OF THE PARK AS DOES THIS SPOKANE BISHOPFr. Allan J. McDonaldhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16986575955114152639noreply@blogger.comBlogger19125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7846189835239594160.post-61810443580735640342019-03-11T10:08:11.555-04:002019-03-11T10:08:11.555-04:00Dan,
Noticed how MT has run away from answering d...Dan,<br /><br />Noticed how MT has run away from answering direct questions?TJMnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7846189835239594160.post-24937404540069120192019-03-10T10:06:12.930-04:002019-03-10T10:06:12.930-04:00Dan,
MT obviously is off his meds. He is boring, ...Dan,<br /><br />MT obviously is off his meds. He is boring, tedious, and a left-winger which means he adheres to abortion on demand, gay marriage, transgender bathrooms, etc. In other words a fake catholic. People often forget that Satan can quote scripture. TJMnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7846189835239594160.post-70691546182188181612019-03-10T06:18:38.969-04:002019-03-10T06:18:38.969-04:00Insert Groaning Sounds Here....Insert Groaning Sounds Here....Danhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01504517769804159508noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7846189835239594160.post-33923135035933006702019-03-10T00:47:53.268-05:002019-03-10T00:47:53.268-05:00Anonymous said..."Mark Thomas, As I read this...Anonymous said..."Mark Thomas, As I read this interview, along with your self-righteous, smarmy comments, I cannot help but notice that there are several quotes from this good bishop, whom you purport to support, that completely contradict some of your previous positions. If any of Fr. McDonald's regular readers were so inclined, we could easily throw them back and you and make you look foolish. But then again, you do quite well in that department without anyone's help."<br /><br />Based upon Anonymous' logic...<br /><br />-- Father McDonald holds Bishop Daly in high regard.<br /><br />-- Father McDonald has criticized Pope Francis' handling of the sexual abuse "crisis."<br /><br />-- Father McDonald has criticized Pope Francis' recent conference on the sexual abuse "crisis."<br /><br />But Bishop Daly disagrees.<br /><br />Pope Francis has tackled the abuse issue in major fashion while, prior to Pope Francis, "the Church for too long has ignored" the "ongoing sex abuse scandals in the Church," according to Bishop Daly.<br /><br />Bishop Daly has offered positive remarks in regard to Francis' conference on sexual abuse...and Bishop Daly declared that Pope Francis' conference will spur "the implementation of policies and norms for better addressing sexual abuse among the clergy in all countries of the world."<br /><br />Therefore, Anonymous would have us to believe that although Father McDonald supports Bishop Daly, that we must conclude that Father McDonald looks foolish as Bishop Daly has contradicted Father McDonald in regard to Pope Francis' handling of the abuse "crisis."<br /><br />Correct, Anonymous?<br /><br />Pax.<br /><br />Mark ThomasMark Thomasnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7846189835239594160.post-87165904724584344012019-03-10T00:31:09.717-05:002019-03-10T00:31:09.717-05:00Anonymous said..."I have great affection for ...Anonymous said..."I have great affection for the Extraordinary Form, in part because it's what I grew up with (I turn 71 on the Ides of March). But my affection is also for the EF's inherent reverence, dignity, and focus on Christ (rather than the priest or the people in the pews).:<br /><br />I favor the TLM over the Novus Ordo.<br /><br />Pax.<br /><br />Mark ThomasMark Thomasnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7846189835239594160.post-16770127994162423622019-03-10T00:07:20.010-05:002019-03-10T00:07:20.010-05:00nonymous said..."Mark Thomas, As I read this ...nonymous said..."Mark Thomas, As I read this interview, along with your self-righteous, smarmy comments, I cannot help but notice that there are several quotes from this good bishop, whom you purport to support, that completely contradict some of your previous positions. If any of Fr. McDonald's regular readers were so inclined, we could easily throw them back and you and make you look foolish."<br /><br />That wouldn't make me look foolish. But feel free to provide "several quotes from this good bishop," whom I "purport to support, that completely contradict some of" my "previous positions."<br /><br />The fact that I support Bishop Daly does not mean that I agree with each opinion that holds.<br /><br />Do you agree with everything that a person, supported by you, says or does?<br /><br />I disagree, for example, with certain views held by Father McDonald. But that doesn't prevent me from supporting Father McDonald to the hilt.<br /><br />I think that Father McDonald is a holy man...his support for the TLM and Novus Ordo is the way to liturgical peace within the Latin Church...his blog/voice is very important within the Church.<br /><br />Again, the fact that I haven't agreed with everything that Father McDonald has declared via his blog has not prevented me from having held Father in high regard. <br /><br />That applies as well to Bishop Daly.<br /><br />Anonymous, your comment in question doesn't make sense. Sorry.<br /><br />Pax.<br /><br />Mark ThomasMark Thomasnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7846189835239594160.post-79998913857686742232019-03-09T22:51:31.783-05:002019-03-09T22:51:31.783-05:00Father McDonald said..."MT, I don't share...Father McDonald said..."MT, I don't share your Pollyanna approach to just about everything and in fact this approach is what escalated the abuse crisis in the Church. I don't stick my head in the sand either."<br /><br />Father, that is fine. You have your ways...I have my ways. God is in charge. I don't have to worry about anything.<br />=====================================================================================<br /><br />Father McDonald said..." The abuse conference did not address the root rot but only used smoke and mirrors and an ideological "spirit of Vatican II" agenda of a faux clericalism or clericalism manipulated for ideological reasons by the Pope himself and his cohorts who are blindly following him."<br /><br />Okay. Anyway, I share Bishop Daly's optimism in regard to the recent Vatican conference on sexual abuse.<br /><br />Time will tell as to whether the conference proved successful.<br /><br />Pax.<br /><br />Mark ThomasMark Thomasnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7846189835239594160.post-78593135090892511842019-03-09T20:54:41.321-05:002019-03-09T20:54:41.321-05:00Mark Thomas,
Pope Francis appointed Bishop Daly, ...Mark Thomas,<br /><br />Pope Francis appointed Bishop Daly, and from the article it appears that this was an excellent decision. No more need be said.<br /><br />I have great affection for the Extraordinary Form, in part because it's what I grew up with (I turn 71 on the Ides of March). But my affection is also for the EF's inherent reverence, dignity, and focus on Christ (rather than the priest or the people in the pews).<br /><br />Can this be true of the NO as well? Of course - and I saw many examples of this when I taught for a year in Croatia (and Croatian is more opaque to me than Latin). I've even seen examples of reverent NO Masses in the U.S. More frequently, however, the liturgy seems to be directed at the people, with the goal of enhancing their self-esteem and self-importance. Christ as nonjudgmental buddy vs. Christ as Lord and Savior. A quick <i>Agnus Dei</i> and on to the important stuff - us.<br /><br />It's apparent that Bishop Daly is of a similar mind to mine; note, for instance, that he has required kneeling during Mass. This would be a challenge in my local church-in-the-round, as there are no kneelers <i>by design</i>. And <b><i>that's a problem!</i></b>. Not the only one, to be sure.<br /><br />So please refrain from further postings that lambaste "traditionalists." Many of us have good reasons for our preference, rooted in a deep, traditional understanding of what the Mass is all about, and we're often upset by the Mass as celebrated.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7846189835239594160.post-51677771795505541272019-03-09T14:26:37.286-05:002019-03-09T14:26:37.286-05:00Bishop Daly and Bishop Schneider. Personally, I do...Bishop Daly and Bishop Schneider. Personally, I don’t think it’s fair for the other side. We only have one riot, we only need one ranger. But I’ll Take what God sends. rcghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00661998350597126663noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7846189835239594160.post-81051121879436418592019-03-09T13:13:10.658-05:002019-03-09T13:13:10.658-05:00Anonymous,
When it comes to MT, "there is no...Anonymous,<br /><br />When it comes to MT, "there is no there there." Ignore him. He is abysmally ignorant of the Faith and all he can do is cut and paste a bunch of non sequiturs. He NEVER responds to a direct question which puts his golden calf, PF, in a bad light. Birds of a feather, I would say. TJMnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7846189835239594160.post-64661397392840297812019-03-09T10:23:17.103-05:002019-03-09T10:23:17.103-05:00"Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.&qu..."Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah."<br /><br />Pax,<br /><br />M (holier than thou) TAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7846189835239594160.post-45990454942753789412019-03-09T10:22:00.111-05:002019-03-09T10:22:00.111-05:00Mark Thomas,
As I read this interview, along wit...Mark Thomas, <br /><br />As I read this interview, along with your self-righteous, smarmy comments, I cannot help but notice that there are several quotes from this good bishop, whom you purport to support, that completely contradict some of your previous positions. If any of Fr. McDonald's regular readers were so inclined, we could easily throw them back and you and make you look foolish. But then again, you do quite well in that department without anyone's help.<br /><br />So do yourself a favor. Please find some other spot in the blogosphere to troll your silliness. Most of us here like a REAL discussion and reading your...uh..."statements" makes most of us cringe with embarrassment for you. We've all had quite enough. <br /><br />Please, for your own sake.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7846189835239594160.post-27040579796857623582019-03-09T10:15:31.561-05:002019-03-09T10:15:31.561-05:00MT, I don't share your Pollyanna approach to j...MT, I don't share your Pollyanna approach to just about everything and in fact this approach is what escalated the abuse crisis in the Church. I don't stick my head in the sand either. The abuse conference did not address the root rot but only used smoke and mirrors and an ideological "spirit of Vatican II" agenda of a faux clericalism or clericalism manipulated for ideological reasons by the Pope himself and his cohorts who are blindly following him.<br /><br />I find it odd that you have no Pollyanna remarks with links and the like concerning this aspect of the interview:<br /><br />On what he knows to be true in the controversial letter from Archbishop Viganò, who accused major church leaders, including Pope Francis, in failing to act on what they allegedly knew about Archbishop Theodore McCarrick abusing an altar boy and seminarians: <br /><br />"It had to do with the appointment of a bishop in a diocese in the west, that their metropolitans were not consulted. <br /><br />"As I said, I think Viganò is a man of integrity. I just know of an appointment of a bishop that was clearly dictated outside the normal channels. I'd like to get into it, but I know it gets a little controversial.<br /><br />"To the ones [Viganò] spoke about, look at the way, they never address what he said. They just try to destroy him personally. I find that very troubling. I look at those guys who focus on what he raised, and not the person of Archbishop Viganò."<br /><br />Fr. Allan J. McDonaldhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16986575955114152639noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7846189835239594160.post-57211202367068103782019-03-09T10:08:05.250-05:002019-03-09T10:08:05.250-05:00Father McDonald said..."I speak especially of...Father McDonald said..."I speak especially of those guiding the recent summit on the sex abuse crisis!"<br /><br />Father, please join Bishop Daly and countless folks who are optimistic in regard to the summit in question.<br /><br />Please recall that at the time of the Dallas Charter meeting, one person after another denounced the meeting...insisted that the meeting was a waste of time. We know that said folks were way off base. The Dallas Charter was a great success.<br /><br />Anyway, I join Bishop Daly in his belief that Pope Francis' summit will prove very successful in regard to the sexual abuse "crisis."<br /><br />Pax.<br /><br />Mark ThomasMark Thomasnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7846189835239594160.post-88978059932600409912019-03-09T09:55:26.190-05:002019-03-09T09:55:26.190-05:00I meant "too" cynical.I meant "too" cynical.Cletus Ordonoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7846189835239594160.post-66400335942125951682019-03-09T09:54:32.086-05:002019-03-09T09:54:32.086-05:00While I certainly find this interview to be refres...While I certainly find this interview to be refreshing and agree with much of what the good bishop says, I can't help but feel some frustration at the same time. There's no denying that bishops of Daly's ilk usually end up in dioceses like Spokane or Denver or Lincoln or--anyplace "off Broadway". When it comes time for the big promotions, like Chicago or New York, we get keep getting bishops like Cupich or His Most Eminent Disappointment, Cardinal Dolan. And these bishops DO pretend that their most important value is "can't we all just get along" when, in fact, they will destroy an orthodox priest without batting an eye. The only people they wish to get along with are liberal politicians and unquestioning, uncatechized post Vatican II Catholics.<br /><br />About the only exception I can see to this rule is Archbishop Chaput of Philadelphia. Then again, Benedict appointed him and it is doubtful that he will ever become a cardinal, given the current leadership in Rome.<br /><br />Yeah, I'm getting to cynical. I suppose I should just be grateful we have a few bishops like Daly. I only wish there were more.Cletus Ordonoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7846189835239594160.post-45621964361987168702019-03-09T09:48:48.155-05:002019-03-09T09:48:48.155-05:00Bishop Daly is a "Vatican II, Novus Ordo bish...Bishop Daly is a "Vatican II, Novus Ordo bishop."<br /><br />"Traditional" Catholics will claim that Bishop Daly, as he is a "Novus Ordo" bishop, is part of the problem, not solution, in regard to the collapse of the Church throughout the West. <br /><br />Bishop Daly has demonstrated otherwise. <br /><br />By the way...<br /><br />"Schola Cantus Angelorum is pleased to announce the seventh annual Sacred Liturgy Conference to be held in Spokane Washington, May 28-31, 2019. <br /><br />"It will take place at the state-of-the-art Hemmingson Center on the campus of Gonzaga University. The liturgies will be held at the beautiful nearby Churches of St Aloysius and the Cathedral of Our Lady of Lourdes."<br /><br />Bishop Thomas Daly will participate in the conference in question.<br /><br />Pax.<br /><br />Mark ThomasMark Thomasnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7846189835239594160.post-20411673402370540372019-03-09T09:28:39.461-05:002019-03-09T09:28:39.461-05:00Pope Francis appointed Bishop Daly as Bishop of Sp...Pope Francis appointed Bishop Daly as Bishop of Spokane...very good decision by His Holiness.<br /><br />I have read a letter that Bishop Daly released in regard to Pope Francis having summoned to Rome recently Cardinals and bishops in regard to the sexual abuse "crisis."<br /><br />Pope Francis has seized the initiative as Bishop Daly said that "the Church for too long has ignored" the "ongoing sex abuse scandals in the Church."<br /><br />Bishop Daly then expressed optimism in regard to Pope Francis' conference in question:<br /><br />Bishop Daily said: "I believe that the fruit of this conference will be the implementation of policies and norms for better addressing sexual abuse among the clergy in all countries of the world.<br /><br />Deo gratias for Bishop Daly. <br /><br />Pax.<br /><br />Mark ThomasMark Thomasnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7846189835239594160.post-87891006460884425472019-03-09T08:40:50.771-05:002019-03-09T08:40:50.771-05:00I have had to read and reread this interview becau...I have had to read and reread this interview because it is so damn refreshing! Keep in mind, Pope Francis named him bishop. His predecessor was Cardinal Cupich!<br /><br />This bishop is a damn refreshing, authentic Catholic priest, prophet and king! He is a prince of a bishop.<br /><br />Sad, very sad, that this kind of honesty and straightforward talk is lacking from the in power cabal currently creating a disaster of a shipwreck! I speak especially of those guiding the recent summit on the sex abuse crisis!Fr. Allan J. McDonaldhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16986575955114152639noreply@blogger.com