tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7846189835239594160.post6364613460054918574..comments2024-03-28T20:30:10.681-04:00Comments on southern orders: MAYBE PAPAL PILGRIMAGES SHOULD HAVE SEEN THEIR DAY BY NOW! THESE COST TOO MUCH AND TURN POPES INTO CELEBRITIES AND MASS AND OTHER LITURGIES INTO SPECTACLES ESPECIALLY IN THE POST VATICAN II 'S ETHOES AND STYLE OF PARTICIPATION AT THESE MEGA RALLIESFr. Allan J. McDonaldhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16986575955114152639noreply@blogger.comBlogger21125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7846189835239594160.post-24968117207745801752018-01-17T11:53:38.048-05:002018-01-17T11:53:38.048-05:00Carlton/Kavanaugh -
Otherwise, what, Father? Carlton/Kavanaugh - <br /><br />Otherwise, what, Father? ByzRushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11543580976814745615noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7846189835239594160.post-84015098547701000862018-01-17T09:23:29.776-05:002018-01-17T09:23:29.776-05:00Carlton/Kavanaugh,
Hang it up. You are beyond ted...Carlton/Kavanaugh,<br /><br />Hang it up. You are beyond tedious, arguing like a grade school childTJMnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7846189835239594160.post-53439113536050308432018-01-16T22:12:21.145-05:002018-01-16T22:12:21.145-05:00Byz, have you complained on this blog about mega- ...Byz, have you complained on this blog about mega- liturgies? I don't think so. This is, on this blog, an entirely new complaint, existing only since Pope Francis came to office.<br /><br />If I am wrong, provide the links.<br /><br />Otherwise...Carltonnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7846189835239594160.post-27164889477411836832018-01-16T17:00:45.276-05:002018-01-16T17:00:45.276-05:00Carlton/Kavanaugh -
With all due respect, no one...Carlton/Kavanaugh - <br /><br />With all due respect, no one is obliged to accept and respond to reporting assignments for information that, as pointed out by TJM, can be searched personally. <br /><br />Thank you. ByzRushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11543580976814745615noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7846189835239594160.post-38627854916626886692018-01-16T11:32:04.705-05:002018-01-16T11:32:04.705-05:00Carlton, you are definitely Kavanaugh!Carlton, you are definitely Kavanaugh!TJMnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7846189835239594160.post-80286055125102316272018-01-15T18:54:52.776-05:002018-01-15T18:54:52.776-05:00No links to complaints HERE about mega- liturgies ...No links to complaints HERE about mega- liturgies then?Carltonnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7846189835239594160.post-70393978654378008682018-01-15T11:13:17.936-05:002018-01-15T11:13:17.936-05:00Carlton, I just figured you out: YOU"RE KAVAN...Carlton, I just figured you out: YOU"RE KAVANAUGH!!! LOL. If you weren't so lazy, you could easily find the criticism posted on this very website. By the way, how much does George Soros pay you to post? TJMnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7846189835239594160.post-9313254077004620432018-01-15T08:37:40.818-05:002018-01-15T08:37:40.818-05:00Naff Off.... Naff On.... Popiel strikes again!
P...Naff Off.... Naff On.... Popiel strikes again!<br /><br />Post the links. <br /><br />(Trust, but verify, ya know...)Carltonnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7846189835239594160.post-31518884766035155532018-01-14T23:27:23.834-05:002018-01-14T23:27:23.834-05:00Carlton,
So you are doubting the veracity of the ...Carlton,<br /><br />So you are doubting the veracity of the folks here? These complaints have been consistently posted over the years here, on The New Liturgical Movement, and Father Z websites to name a few. You are either wilfully blind or a paid Soros plant posting here to cause trouble. Naff offTJMnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7846189835239594160.post-32872532339820046512018-01-14T16:31:09.786-05:002018-01-14T16:31:09.786-05:00Post links to the complaints, please.Post links to the complaints, please.Carltonnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7846189835239594160.post-72073923498414032402018-01-14T15:33:46.706-05:002018-01-14T15:33:46.706-05:00This papal branding began in earnest with Pope Joh...This papal branding began in earnest with Pope John Paul 2.<br />TBH one must ask what purpose if any does it serve?<br />The bishop is responsible for his diocese.<br />It is not normally necessary for any pope to visit any bishops diocese.<br />One can understand the desire for people to see the pope in person and if it is that important then with cheap air travel most can make it to Vatican City.<br />Therefore this branding of the papacy as some global figure striding the continents in my opinion has become an exercise in theatrical voyeurism devoid of real spiritual significance.<br />Regards from John.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7846189835239594160.post-35904849155377371812018-01-14T13:59:33.723-05:002018-01-14T13:59:33.723-05:00Carlton,
Where were you during those years? Ther...Carlton,<br /><br />Where were you during those years? There was always complaining about mega-Masses. Two common complaints were the way concelebration prevented most laymen from getting near an altar during the events, and the way large-scale Communion Processions led to mishandling of the Blessed Sacrament. Rood Screenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09816036539243214384noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7846189835239594160.post-23487854370777477932018-01-13T21:16:32.800-05:002018-01-13T21:16:32.800-05:00Carlton you’re mistaken. Plenty of Catholic blogg...Carlton you’re mistaken. Plenty of Catholic bloggers complained, including me, starting with the Barnum and Bailey Masses of John Paul IITJMnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7846189835239594160.post-16927121236683171132018-01-13T19:06:48.152-05:002018-01-13T19:06:48.152-05:00ByzRC,
Well said. And, surely it is the job of t...ByzRC,<br /><br />Well said. And, surely it is the job of the cardinals to provide a pastoral link between the pope and the global faithful. Rood Screenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09816036539243214384noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7846189835239594160.post-86048877354209943732018-01-13T18:46:06.795-05:002018-01-13T18:46:06.795-05:00Funny, no one here was complaining about the cost ...Funny, no one here was complaining about the cost of these "mega-spectacles" when Benedict 16 was the Bishop of Rome.<br /><br />Weren't businesses impinged upon when he came to town? Didn't they close roads for his motorcade. Were no workers displaced when Ratzinger was around? Was not communion given to anyone who lined up?<br /><br />Funny, how all these terrible, terrible things have come to anyone's attention just since the Argentine has been in office.....Carltonnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7846189835239594160.post-12217190702208379592018-01-13T16:34:44.830-05:002018-01-13T16:34:44.830-05:00I have to agree with Rood Screen and the Egyptian....I have to agree with Rood Screen and the Egyptian. Perhaps these mega-spectacles have had their day as the expense is too great and the liturgy becomes more of a show with an almost abusive number of 'concelebrants', faithful who are almost remote from the liturgy itself and no different from your average Latin Church on Sunday just on a much larger scale, the distribution of holy communion to anyone who lines up. <br /><br />In Philadelphia, there were road closures, highway closures and other transportation disruptions during Pope Francis' visit a few years back. Businesses suffered as pilgrims were focused on World Meeting of Family related events not touring and trying the city's numerous fine restaurants. Those with tickets couldn't get into the papal mass grounds while prior to the official events, workers were displaced being relocated or, working from home because of general access issues within the city. <br /><br />Post visit, and I'm not going to judge if the following was due to the individual or, just a sign of the times, mass attendance did not spike, rather, it continued to drop and, seminary admissions did not increase. Cost/benefit - was there value, of course but, perhaps not to the extent to justify the disruptions, displacement, costs related to security etc. that such visits necessitate. ByzRushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11543580976814745615noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7846189835239594160.post-81011788987748968502018-01-13T13:05:32.209-05:002018-01-13T13:05:32.209-05:00in PFs desire to shed the "trappings" of...in PFs desire to shed the "trappings" of power he has so demystified and denigrated the office of pope,there is no royalty or anything special so what does he expect, he's just another bishop, just with LOTS of money and a HUGE egoThe Egyptiannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7846189835239594160.post-53881692003465028812018-01-13T11:26:37.795-05:002018-01-13T11:26:37.795-05:00rcg,
I differ with your comment in that the media...rcg,<br /><br />I differ with your comment in that the media is comprised overwhelmingly of leftists, so they are colluding with the loons you listed and are not being manipulated at all. TJMnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7846189835239594160.post-43451617000116645792018-01-13T10:33:06.529-05:002018-01-13T10:33:06.529-05:00Note to the bombers/protestors: The money that yo...Note to the bombers/protestors: The money that you spent to have constructed the bombs should have been donated to the poor.<br /><br />Pax.<br /><br />Mark ThomasMark Thomasnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7846189835239594160.post-90744194710563324362018-01-13T08:18:46.329-05:002018-01-13T08:18:46.329-05:00We should keep in mind that the Leftists, Socialis...We should keep in mind that the Leftists, Socialists, and Communists are expert at manipulating the media. It is leveraged by how news of other nations and areas is highly filtered from other areas of the world. This adds a shock vallue to this sort of news and artificially amplifies it. So when I see this as it is presented here I get the impression that the Pope has been selective in his outrage and turns a blind eye towards his pals who exhibit most strongly the traits he has famously begged tolerance. I have to determine if that perception is true. rcghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09131930849106490711noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7846189835239594160.post-79935579406183907932018-01-13T07:59:23.109-05:002018-01-13T07:59:23.109-05:00Are there also calls to end football matches and r...Are there also calls to end football matches and rock concerts? For that matter, putting an end to all protesting would save the government a lot of money. <br /><br />As for the bishop of Rome, I think it's best that he stay in his own diocese, and lead other bishops by his example of fidelity and charity. Rood Screenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09816036539243214384noreply@blogger.com