tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7846189835239594160.post6343890250394221070..comments2024-03-28T12:59:52.914-04:00Comments on southern orders: CANDLEMAS DONE RITEFr. Allan J. McDonaldhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16986575955114152639noreply@blogger.comBlogger6125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7846189835239594160.post-41243545733080073812019-02-04T11:43:16.524-05:002019-02-04T11:43:16.524-05:00I sang at a Missa Cantata (EF) in north Oxford on ...I sang at a Missa Cantata (EF) in north Oxford on Saturday morning. It's interesting to compare the Novus Ordo with the Roman Rite. The RR has five prayers of blessing for the candles, and a case could be made for omitting some of them, or indeed singing them in the vernacular, provided a suitable translation be used - and that's a big 'if'.<br /><br />The NO suppresses them all, and provides two newly composed prayers, of which only one is to be used. And it is unlikely to be sung. The second does not bless the candles at all, and is anodyne even in the original Latin.<br /><br />The 'Lumen ad Revelationem Gentium' (a short antiphon repeated at the end of each verse of the 'Nunc Dimittis') is sung in the RR during the distribution of candles before the procession; in the NO it accompanies the procession. The NO can include the antiphons 'Adorna est thalamum' and 'Responsum accepit' plus the responsory 'Obtulerunt' which accompany the procession in the RR; but unless there is a schola capable of singing these from the Graduale they are unlikely to be used.<br /><br />Violet vestments were traditionally worn for the blessing of candles and the procession, but the 1960 rubrics specify white. They also omit the PATFOTA. The NO goes a stage further and omits the Kyrie (why?)<br /><br />The service from St Peter's was predictably underwhelming, and presumably has merely parochial significance, since PF mumbled his low Mass in Italian.<br /><br /><br /><br />John Nolanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09027156691859606002noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7846189835239594160.post-50561494835534521422019-02-03T23:01:16.255-05:002019-02-03T23:01:16.255-05:00This is actually insulting. Santita should have us...This is actually insulting. Santita should have used Latin for this Mass unless he has given up on being Pope to the entire Church. TJMnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7846189835239594160.post-22319890065411207922019-02-03T21:10:21.821-05:002019-02-03T21:10:21.821-05:00Bee,
I was so sorry to have missed Candlemas ther...Bee,<br /><br />I was so sorry to have missed Candlemas there. We were babysitting our 3 grandchildren and spent our morning carting them around to sports practices. St. John Cantius' continues to be an oasis in a desert of arid, bland Novus Ordo Masses. Bishop Perry is remarkable. The fact that 300 people were there on a Saturday morning is extraordinary. Deo Gratias!!! TJMnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7846189835239594160.post-58704268702057133912019-02-03T17:06:38.918-05:002019-02-03T17:06:38.918-05:00Bee here:
Went to Candlemas at St. John Cantius, ...Bee here:<br /><br />Went to Candlemas at St. John Cantius, Chicago. It was fabulous. Bishop Perry celebrated a TLM for it. It was really very awesome and amazing - Gregorian chant, incense galore, congregation with lit candles for the procession (but only the bishop, priests (2 priests and a soon to be ordained deacon) and altar servers processed inside the church), candles lit again during the 'chanted in Latin' gospel and again for the canon, and a terrific homily by Bishop Perry. The mass lasted 2 hours; started at 8:30 am and ended around 10:30 am. Amazing. The place was pretty full too, about 300 people. <br /><br />Then afterwards were First Saturday devotions, which lasted another hour (exposition of the Blessed Sacrament, 5 decades of the rosary, and benediction).<br /><br />Then today after every Mass they blessed throats for St. Blase.<br /><br /><br />God bless.<br />BeeAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7846189835239594160.post-13209309860967655482019-02-03T13:08:39.526-05:002019-02-03T13:08:39.526-05:00Yes, our Parish celebrated Candlemas Day at the st...Yes, our Parish celebrated Candlemas Day at the start of Mass by having a blessing of candles. I attended the Vigil Mass and certainly hope the Sunday Mass had more of a turn out of candles to be blessed!Karennoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7846189835239594160.post-7174625813530605542019-02-03T11:47:15.273-05:002019-02-03T11:47:15.273-05:00Yes. And today almost the entire parish took the ...Yes. And today almost the entire parish took the lessing of Saint Blaise. rcghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00661998350597126663noreply@blogger.com