tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7846189835239594160.post621961179742871432..comments2024-03-28T20:30:10.681-04:00Comments on southern orders: DEACON GREG KENDRA YOU ARE NOT TELLING THE WHOLE STORY, BUT A GOOD REMINDER ANYWAYFr. Allan J. McDonaldhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16986575955114152639noreply@blogger.comBlogger14125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7846189835239594160.post-43309467509337496352014-10-06T23:06:45.632-04:002014-10-06T23:06:45.632-04:00Father and Anonymous,
I was denied Communion for...Father and Anonymous,<br /><br />I was denied Communion for kneeling on Saturday, 04 OCT 2014. I emailed the priest, a very nice man...who explained that he was bound by the regulation quoted here. <br /><br />This does indeed come from the USCCB website, but it dates from Nov 2002, [see here....http://www.greenspun.com/bboard/q-and-a-fetch-msg.tcl?msg_id=00AgSy] pre-Benedict, pre-2012 GIRM which banned priests from refusing Communion to kneelers. Why the link is still functioning is a good question.Kneeling Catholichttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16797815971446807261noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7846189835239594160.post-60898256708146800712014-06-23T22:58:59.696-04:002014-06-23T22:58:59.696-04:00News Flash People. The Faithful in the US are not ...News Flash People. The Faithful in the US are not supposed to be receiving the Host in the Hand AT ALL. Guess who said so The soon to be Blessed Paul VI. He said back in a 1969 Instruction that in places where this was not already done it should not be started. Joseph Bernadine forced this abuse on us in June 1977. Look at New Liturgical Movement article on this. Church Militant also mentions this in Sleight of Hand. Bernadine lied to Paul VI.Katalinahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13022632010831557996noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7846189835239594160.post-37631159434286999632014-06-23T02:46:49.255-04:002014-06-23T02:46:49.255-04:00Anon, I'd love to tell you otherwise, but the ...Anon, I'd love to tell you otherwise, but the diocese of Orange has a rather infamous history.Православный физикhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11313371333531421128noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7846189835239594160.post-39105412621726569192014-06-23T01:30:31.739-04:002014-06-23T01:30:31.739-04:00Thank you, RCG! Have a blessed week!Thank you, RCG! Have a blessed week!Carol H.https://www.blogger.com/profile/02475843499648488542noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7846189835239594160.post-2434284482512598312014-06-22T17:09:27.086-04:002014-06-22T17:09:27.086-04:00I had a friend denied communion because he wanted ...I had a friend denied communion because he wanted to kneel. He said OK and opened his mouth and the priest refused to place it on the tongue. In our parish there are folks who can't kneel and there is no big deal made. <br /><br />Carol, I think I know you. If you come back to visit Dayton, let know and I will take you to Holy Family. rcghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09131930849106490711noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7846189835239594160.post-43654795029846905172014-06-22T17:01:04.459-04:002014-06-22T17:01:04.459-04:00Anonymous,
Very few people kneel in the first pla...Anonymous,<br /><br />Very few people kneel in the first place, due in part to the fact that they've been told they shouldn't or mayn't. Of those who do, I know priests who delay Communion for them, or insist that they receive from a layman. There are also YouTube videos both of this denial and of on-the-spot reprimands. Rood Screenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09816036539243214384noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7846189835239594160.post-40946016492305879172014-06-22T16:18:55.762-04:002014-06-22T16:18:55.762-04:00Joe P....Surely nobody paid any attention to that....Joe P....Surely nobody paid any attention to that. did they? We do have brains...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7846189835239594160.post-20847398504941057032014-06-22T16:09:07.483-04:002014-06-22T16:09:07.483-04:00With the issues with my legs, it's certainly a...With the issues with my legs, it's certainly a lot easier to kneel with a kneeler or at an altar rail.<br /><br />Anon, I have seen people denied Communion because they knelt, in fact in Bp. Brown's former diocese, kneeling was declared a mortal sin.Православный физикhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11313371333531421128noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7846189835239594160.post-26854717354294509592014-06-22T13:42:19.841-04:002014-06-22T13:42:19.841-04:00In my first assignment in the very early 80's ...In my first assignment in the very early 80's I did and I suspect many priests my age and older did! Today the problem is passive aggressive in the sense that those who do kneel must do so directly to the hard dirty floor with out a prop to help them rise! Fr. Allan J. McDonaldhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16986575955114152639noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7846189835239594160.post-69315037601447534012014-06-22T12:47:24.594-04:002014-06-22T12:47:24.594-04:00I'm glad you posted this, Father, because I ha...I'm glad you posted this, Father, because I have seen this before.<br /><br />When I lived in Ohio, reverence for the Blessed Sacrament was removed in steps.<br /><br />First, we were told, in the same manner as this Deacon describes, that we all were supposed to receive standing. We were also told that we were not supposed to genuflect, but to give a small bow.<br /><br />Next, the pews were reconfigured in a more circular form because we "need to be able to see our neighbor during Mass." The tabernacle was moved behind a wall and out of sight at this time.<br /><br />Finally, we were told that after communion, when we returned to our seats, that we were to remain standing until the last communicant received, and that we were to sit down together.<br /><br />I agree with Gene that this discussion should not be necessary, but I am afraid that this discussion has become necessary because now step one has been proposed in a new location. The results are catastrophic. I don't personally know RCG, but I believe we attended the same parish while this was going on and he can attest to the truth of it.Carol H.https://www.blogger.com/profile/02475843499648488542noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7846189835239594160.post-16377845806545139592014-06-22T11:57:12.305-04:002014-06-22T11:57:12.305-04:00I have never, personally, seen or heard of anyone ...I have never, personally, seen or heard of anyone being refused Communion because they chose to kneel.<br /><br />Have you?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7846189835239594160.post-7370467223340465382014-06-22T08:04:39.373-04:002014-06-22T08:04:39.373-04:00The Church will not begin to seriously improve unt...The Church will not begin to seriously improve until men ordained priests after around 2000 become bishops. The lack of proper formation of priests and deacons is astonishing. Even those seemingly orthodox reflect the poor formation they received. Lukenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7846189835239594160.post-76896216385805018242014-06-22T07:55:23.247-04:002014-06-22T07:55:23.247-04:00I don't understand how this article can be wor...I don't understand how this article can be worthy of sharing, when this deacon clearly ignores the various points that you make in red. The norm in the USA is a bow and standing, but genuflecting and kneeling are practices protected by Church law and promoted by the Pope Emeritus. This legal reality may require some adjustment on the part of blogger in question, who seems to have succumbed to clericalism. Rood Screenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09816036539243214384noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7846189835239594160.post-43722447221789289732014-06-22T06:36:52.442-04:002014-06-22T06:36:52.442-04:00We should not even be having this discussion...We should not even be having this discussion...Genehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06672484450736725268noreply@blogger.com