tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7846189835239594160.post6076291145313496287..comments2024-03-28T20:30:10.681-04:00Comments on southern orders: MORE INSIGHTS INTO THE MIND OF THE BISHOP OF ROME, POPE FRANCIS, FROM HIS HOMILY AT THE CHAPEL OF HIS PLACE OF RESIDENCE AT THE VATICAN MOTEL 6 (I WONDER IF THEY HAVE HBO?)Fr. Allan J. McDonaldhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16986575955114152639noreply@blogger.comBlogger7125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7846189835239594160.post-77020537746149223432013-07-16T15:22:12.527-04:002013-07-16T15:22:12.527-04:00if you are confused see the following article whic...if you are confused see the following article which explains "gnostic" and "pelagian" a little better: http://www.pittsburghcatholic.org/columnists_storys.php?id=1832 Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7846189835239594160.post-88171556000823267612013-06-28T18:22:20.280-04:002013-06-28T18:22:20.280-04:00...lost at the mall......lost at the mall...Genehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06672484450736725268noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7846189835239594160.post-8486650187475753262013-06-27T15:34:22.673-04:002013-06-27T15:34:22.673-04:00Of course the problem lies with both the Holy Fath...Of course the problem lies with both the Holy Father and Vatican Radio for printing this. We may be hearing too much from the Holy Father. I don't think this was the case with Pope Benedict and certainly he didn't have his daily homilies printed and perhaps these Masses were private. I know that Pope John Paul II had different groups at his daily Mass in the papal apartments but I'm not sure he gave a homily and if he did these were not communicated to the world.<br />I think Pope Francis is still on a learning curve and dealing with a mess at the Vatican which Pope Benedict seem not to deal with personally. Michael Voris and others seem to be reporting on the gay lobby that Pope Francis alluded to and that this is going to be an ugly scandal and discredit the moral authority of the Church even further. I think we are going to be in "reform" mode for quite some time and there has to be soul searching in terms of what has happened in the so-called renewal to the Vatican, our bishops, our priests and laity and finally the laity these past 50 years and own up to the disaster it has been for people as we tried to update liturgies and structure and all the other things and let the Church go to hell in a handbag in the meantime. Nero fiddling as Rome burned!Fr. Allan J. McDonaldhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16986575955114152639noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7846189835239594160.post-73081778667320306492013-06-27T15:21:03.090-04:002013-06-27T15:21:03.090-04:00Unfortunately, this kind of gobbledegook diminishe...Unfortunately, this kind of gobbledegook diminishes the voice of the papacy, when the Church and the world so needs a papal vox clara. For sure, these muddy insights into the mind of the Bishop of Rome we do not need. Henrynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7846189835239594160.post-91489685525706975682013-06-27T14:08:10.787-04:002013-06-27T14:08:10.787-04:00I'm afraid this is gobbledegook to me as well....I'm afraid this is gobbledegook to me as well. He appears to be rambling about opinions based on preconceived notions about groups he has glanced at from afar.<br /><br />Maybe if he spent some time getting to know these groups in the same way he spends time getting to know the poor, we would hear something more concrete and less generalized?Carol H.https://www.blogger.com/profile/02475843499648488542noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7846189835239594160.post-9678030944854853132013-06-27T11:55:12.391-04:002013-06-27T11:55:12.391-04:00I'm sorry, these animadversions of Pope Franci...I'm sorry, these animadversions of Pope Francis are to me so much gobbledegook.I can't even start to analyze them because on closer inspection they become even more meaningless. Who specifically are the 'gnostics' and 'pelagians' in the present-day Church? He doesn't say. Benedict was highly intellectual, but had the gift of explaining complex issues in a way that was understandable to the layman (this sort of clarity from a German as well!) JP II could be a bit obscure at times, but by and large one knew what he was on about. <br /><br />What for example is "liquid Christianity" and what has this do do with gnosticism? It's all very vague, confused even. He makes a lot of unfounded assumptions about "classes of Christians", and ought to realize that there are two classes of public speakers - those who develop cogent arguments and those who 'waffle'. On the available evidence Pope Francis risks being in the latter category.<br /><br />Perhaps he is so profound a thinker that I am simply incapable of grasping what he means - but somehow I doubt it.John Nolanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09027156691859606002noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7846189835239594160.post-29771997902972224382013-06-27T10:04:57.255-04:002013-06-27T10:04:57.255-04:00Here is my frustration: It appears that the pseudo...Here is my frustration: It appears that the pseudo-Christians would be corrected or called out. One thinks that trying to follow the Church's doctrines, Law, and teachings would be a sort of action. Yet the ones who act most contrarily toward doctrine, law and teachings are not chastised, or only after years of attacks against the Church. But there is only one document in the last 50 years, a single letter, for the traditionalists to point to as confirmation of our actions. And that covers only our adherence to a traditional form of Liturgy. In the action we have politicians teach in the name of the Church about abortion being a right, the limits of Christianity as private and irrelevant to public life. the silence is not just deafening, it is affirmation of their teaching.<br /><br />I dare say that traditionalist will accept correction, will not approach for communion if he is advised that he is in a state of sin that must first be corrected. the solution is simple: confession of the sin. I would hope my priest would advise me and instruct me to go to confirmation first before committing the greater sin of taking communion in the state of mortal sin. He has done that and I love him more for it. It is not condemnation. It is a great act of love.<br /><br />Our Church leaders with very, very few exceptions, have the strength to simply deny communion out of love and concern for the sinner.rcghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09131930849106490711noreply@blogger.com