tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7846189835239594160.post4558996317536834993..comments2024-03-28T20:30:10.681-04:00Comments on southern orders: POPE FRANCIS JUST GAVE A BRILLIANT AND HILARIOUS TEACHING ON THE CHURCH'S AUTHORITY (KEYS) TO FORGIVE SINS IN CONFESSION ( è meglio essere rosso che giallo!, It is better to be embarrassed than a coward, RED THAN YELLOW, so says the pope about those ashamed to confess their sins in person to a priest!)Fr. Allan J. McDonaldhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16986575955114152639noreply@blogger.comBlogger8125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7846189835239594160.post-57049519245398547412013-11-20T17:22:37.713-05:002013-11-20T17:22:37.713-05:00The Liturgy, particularly the EF but also the OF c...The Liturgy, particularly the EF but also the OF celebrated ad orientum and with proper dignity and rubrics, is the Catholic Faith. Those who deconstructed it knew exactly what they were doing and did it deliberately for egalitarian, leveling reasons. They did it seeking common ground with protestant humanistic/liberal theology (read unbelief) in order to transform the Church into a huge social work/collectivist utopian enterprise. They had to de-construct/de-myhtologize the Mass and the Church because we can't have people believing all that Real Presence, Bodily resurrection, Christ returning to establish real Justice at the end of history nonsense if we are to establish a benign world government which will issue in a New Age on earth. Anybody who does not see this is not paying attention or living in denial.<br />So, indeed, fix the Liturgy, fix the Church. All the high-sounding God talk doesn't mean much…it sounds a lot like the band playing beautifully on the Titanic…glub, glub, gurgle. Genehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06672484450736725268noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7846189835239594160.post-47153103211273132712013-11-20T14:36:36.466-05:002013-11-20T14:36:36.466-05:00"But Fr. Z isn't infallible and when I se..."But Fr. Z isn't infallible and when I see Pope Francis celebrating Mass here in Rome it is sober and by the book."<br /><br />But you surely can take Fr. Z to the bank on "Save the Liturgy, Save the World."<br /><br />And it's how the liturgy is celebrated throughout the world that will save the Church, not how either Pope Benedict or Pope Francis celebrates it in Rome. It's not the function of papal liturgy to "model" the celebration of the Mass elsewhere.<br /><br />In any event, why banter about it--about who says or does what? Isn't it obvious that the new evangelization will go nowhere until the pope AND our bishops put the liturgy first?<br /><br />Incidentally, "chief legislator" refers to the popes role in the final promulgation of Church legislation. But once established, the pope has no more license to violate Church legislation than any other priest or layman.Henrynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7846189835239594160.post-79446526910576225952013-11-20T14:10:22.811-05:002013-11-20T14:10:22.811-05:00"Supreme Legislator?"
Ultramontanist mi..."Supreme Legislator?"<br /><br />Ultramontanist mischief in its popular interpretation. The pope is the servant of Tradition, not its master.<br /><br />When petitioned to place the name of St. Joseph in the Canon, Pius IX famously replied, "How can I? I'm only the pope!"Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7846189835239594160.post-72670506076349842462013-11-20T14:02:06.483-05:002013-11-20T14:02:06.483-05:00Fr Z is overrated, pompous, and condescending, esp...Fr Z is overrated, pompous, and condescending, especially to those clergy who have not been gifted with as good a memory as his.<br /><br />He is also a "wandering" priest, incardinated in a diocese he has no business being incardinated in.<br /><br />Ask Fr. McDonald, a former vocations director, about candidates who wander about, seeking a diocese to belong to . . .Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7846189835239594160.post-12865979926617001182013-11-20T14:00:04.057-05:002013-11-20T14:00:04.057-05:00The last time I checked the pope is the supreme le...The last time I checked the pope is the supreme legislator of the Church. Also he does indeed have knee issues thus he bows. I have serious knee problems and while I can kneel, I cannot genuflect, so I do a half genuflection/bow combo! Fr. Allan J. McDonaldhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16986575955114152639noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7846189835239594160.post-40196873839824356492013-11-20T13:54:22.394-05:002013-11-20T13:54:22.394-05:00"it is sober and by the book."
Have you..."it is sober and by the book."<br /><br />Have you seen him genuflect?<br /><br />No, I thought not. He will kneel, so there goes the "bad knees" excuse, but he won't genuflect. Not even at the Consecration, where he can use the altar's edge for support.<br /><br />Have you ever seen him offer Holy Mass as the sole celebrant? <br /><br />No, I thought not.<br /><br />Have you seen him offer Mass with an archbishop sans chasuble? <br /><br />Yep.<br /><br />Have you ever seen him wash the foot of a Mohammedess at the Holy Thursday Mandatum?<br /><br />Definitely "by the book" on that one.<br /><br />And Father Z is right. The Liturgy is where the faithful encounter their Faith, period. All else is periphery.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7846189835239594160.post-11965439643703258892013-11-20T13:44:02.406-05:002013-11-20T13:44:02.406-05:00But Fr. Z isn't infallible and when I see Pope...But Fr. Z isn't infallible and when I see Pope Francis celebrating Mass here in Rome it is sober and by the book.Fr. Allan J. McDonaldhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16986575955114152639noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7846189835239594160.post-8408820585497478462013-11-20T13:21:21.429-05:002013-11-20T13:21:21.429-05:00Pope of "the new springtime" ???
As Fat...Pope of "the new springtime" ???<br /><br />As Father Z keeps pointing out, there will be no new springtime, no new evangelization going anywhere, until top priority is put on the world-wide revitalization of the liturgy. Is there any indication of such a priority in the current papacy?Henrynoreply@blogger.com