tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7846189835239594160.post3861467609410023633..comments2024-03-28T20:30:10.681-04:00Comments on southern orders: POINTING OUT THE SINS OF CLERGY AND LAITY AS A WAY TO DIVIDE THE CATHOLIC CHURCH CARRIED OUT NOT ONLY BY THE PRESS BUT BY EX-CATHOLIC PRIESTS AND LAITY SOME OF WHOM WON'T ADMIT THEY ARE "EX"Fr. Allan J. McDonaldhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16986575955114152639noreply@blogger.comBlogger15125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7846189835239594160.post-15390812908190224552015-09-07T13:04:08.101-04:002015-09-07T13:04:08.101-04:00In my comment above @7:44 PM I should have capital...In my comment above @7:44 PM I should have capitalized Bible. I did not check my comment as well as I should have before posting. Also, in my comment @1:06 PM,<br />in the first link to the story of the miraculous healing of Gemma-di-Giorgi, there are links on that web page to Medjugorje. I am aware that Medjugorje is not Church-approved and I obey the Church as long as that is her position.Georgenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7846189835239594160.post-91280563230804968432015-09-05T19:44:33.648-04:002015-09-05T19:44:33.648-04:00From the development of the University system, to ...<br />From the development of the University system, to the scientific method, to art and architecture, to music, to our system of laws and jurisprudence, to medicine and language, to philosophy and astronomy,to the calendar we use, even to the bible itself, no institution has contributed as much to the development of civilization as the Catholic church and her members.<br />The Church has never seen faith and reason as being mutually exclusive.<br />The Church, being the beneficiary of Divine revelation, has always seen man as being more than just an animal with an intellect. Man, by God's design, is a rational being though. It takes the capacity for rational thought, however limited that capacity may be, to comprehend, grasp, and to understand God's revealed, transcendent truth. Science and mathematics however good and necessary they are, in and of themselves, will not save man from the selfish indulgence of his lower passions, a self-centered mode of existing which in it's most extreme form(although becoming more common) considers other human beings as objects to be used or disposed if they are seen as being in the way of ones own selfish self interest. <br />When man moves away from God who is the Source of the over-arching transcendent principles and laws which apply to all men, then what follows is an increasing dysfunction in the institutions on which a just society depends. The institutions whose very existence of, we owe a lot to the Catholic church. <br /> <br />To Mr Cummins,Mr Cullinan and others of their cloth I would say: " Do you not see that the decline of Christianity, and more specifically the Catholic church,<br />is not a good thing?".Georgenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7846189835239594160.post-58648952862506449662015-09-05T18:01:04.836-04:002015-09-05T18:01:04.836-04:00Then let them pillory you with the truth. Perhaps...Then let them pillory you with the truth. Perhaps this is a good time to educate the public on what happened, why, motivations, etc. even the Popes and bishops are judged by the Church, so let them have at it. Your part is to ensure two things: that the full truth is exposed and that arc of those actions is shown through to current times where the Church has brought sinners under Her influence to understand the value of peace and those who were under the sway of Islam have lived in the same barbaric state for over a thousand years. rcghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09131930849106490711noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7846189835239594160.post-67811433694072445772015-09-05T16:30:07.537-04:002015-09-05T16:30:07.537-04:00How far our public discourse has fallen! Three rel...How far our public discourse has fallen! Three related notions capture it well – polarization, superficiality, and sound bites.<br /><br />This thread and the Macon Telegraph debate that engendered it exemplify the point, whether we are talking about the Crusades, the clergy abuse scandal, or comparing Father McDonald with Father (now Monsignor) Cuddy. All of these topics are complex and multi-faceted. It would behoove everyone to first get the facts—all of the facts—as far as we are able to ascertain them before making judgments. As it is, the discourse on this Blog so often (not always to be sure) degenerates into the kind of playground taunting and verbal brawling that characterize our debased politics today. Hmmmm. I wonder if there is a connection.<br /><br />This kind of discourse may throw red meat to one’s “base” but rarely succeeds in persuading anyone who is not already persuaded. So we have to ask: What is our goal? Preaching to the choir or persuading others to join the choir? If it is the former, by all means have fun and carry on with more of the same. If it is the latter, which is much more difficult, then perhaps showing genuine empathy for those holding a different position, coupled with a genuine respect for them, may be a good first step. Through mutual respectful and empathetic dialogue misconceptions can then be removed and misimpressions corrected as a second step. The third step may be a greater meeting of minds and hearts, even if does not result in complete agreement or persuasion by one side or the other on all points. I would suggest, however, that we will find ourselves in a much better place than when we started whatever the ultimate substantive outcome may be.<br /><br />Anonymous 2noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7846189835239594160.post-9080739613320353072015-09-05T15:12:01.241-04:002015-09-05T15:12:01.241-04:00Calvin of Hippogene:
Can you please clarify -- Wh...Calvin of Hippogene:<br /><br />Can you please clarify -- When you refer to Neil Cullinan “ha[ving] a thing of some kind for has been priests” are you referring to Father (now Monsignor) Cuddy specifically? I suspect you are but want to be sure.<br />Anonymous 2noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7846189835239594160.post-54411562394980617542015-09-05T15:07:50.028-04:002015-09-05T15:07:50.028-04:00I meant "closely allied". Sorry.I meant "closely allied". Sorry.Robert Kumpelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10567786012498143419noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7846189835239594160.post-24237191253056152332015-09-05T14:40:24.535-04:002015-09-05T14:40:24.535-04:00Oh, unknown name also felt that my original post w...Oh, unknown name also felt that my original post was too brief and thus incomplete and that my letter concerning Cullinan (which I doubt the Telegraph will print) was just embarrassing to the clergy. Discuss.Fr. Allan J. McDonaldhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16986575955114152639noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7846189835239594160.post-13679511662724388312015-09-05T14:38:50.864-04:002015-09-05T14:38:50.864-04:00Not only was the Church closes allied to Europe...Not only was the Church closes allied to Europe's various governments, but the "religion of peace" was torturing, killing and enslaving Christians in the Holy Land. The Crusades (after the Inquisition) is the most misrepresented and distorted event in Church history. We even have priests in this diocese ready to apologize for the Crusades. No apologies here. They were necessary and served a good purpose. At least the Church was far more willing THEN to help its members being persecuted by Islam than it is today.Robert Kumpelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10567786012498143419noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7846189835239594160.post-51508362524057352492015-09-05T14:36:35.136-04:002015-09-05T14:36:35.136-04:00Finally, the unknown name thought that I fell into...Finally, the unknown name thought that I fell into a trap addressing the comparison Cullinan made between Msgr. Cuddy and me. I don't know, maybe he's right, but what the heck?Fr. Allan J. McDonaldhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16986575955114152639noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7846189835239594160.post-1520204782520329062015-09-05T14:25:57.614-04:002015-09-05T14:25:57.614-04:00I don't fancy myself thin-skinned but I do lik...I don't fancy myself thin-skinned but I do like a good fight (my mother's father was from Corsica, Napoleon's place of birth and they have it all over the fighting Irish to be sure). I inherited some of that. <br /><br />But someone, whose name will go unknown, says that I should be pilloried in the community for stating that the Crusades were run by the governments of the time that were church and state wedded. That I should not indicate a similar attitude to the Church of England, who head is the King or Queen, for their dastardly deeds during war and colonization and that Cullinan was not making anti-Catholic remarks because of the truth of what he says.<br /><br />Anyone want to comment. Feel free to pillory me or the unknown name!Fr. Allan J. McDonaldhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16986575955114152639noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7846189835239594160.post-82418466560597413092015-09-05T14:17:31.524-04:002015-09-05T14:17:31.524-04:00There's no point in engaging in name-calling (...There's no point in engaging in name-calling ("third rate hacks"/mental midgets"). if we had the same background that some of these men we are criticizing had, perhaps we might take the same view.<br /><br />I would, however, point out a few things to consider:<br /><br />1) The biggest enemies of the Church have usually been fallen-away Catholics<br /><br />2) The Catholic University of America and St. Mary's in Moraga are hardly what one would call exemplary Catholic institutions. At one time they might have been, but they are among the large pool of Catholic colleges and universities that caved into the mindset of rupture and political correctness a long time ago. In my own home town of San Diego, we have the "Catholic" University of San Diego which founder Bishop Charles Buddy desired to be "the Notre Dame of the West". It's a great fundraising apparatus and a wonderful place to send your children if you want them to lose their faith. I would rather my own children attend a secular university than one of these places (including the once-Catholic University of Notre Dame). <br /><br />3) I've beaten this horse to death, but I'll say it again: Yes, Jesus warned us about judging BUT HE DIDN'T TELL US TO STOP USING OUR RATIONALE MINDS. Usually people who try to reduce the Gospels to two words ("judge not") are those who have a great deal to fear should they be judged. The Bible also tells us that we will know what kind of people we are dealing with by their fruits. <br /><br />4) As far as Pope Francis's "who am I to judge?" statement…I'll tell you who you are, Your Holiness--YOU'RE THE POPE! If ANYONE has a right to make a moral judgment, it's the pope! Further, it's the height ( actually the depth ) of hypocrisy for so many people who hate the Church to quote its leader in mock admiration when they have no intention of joining, returning to or obeying that same Church. <br /><br />I am glad to belong to a Church that loves sinners and hates sin. I am not so proud that I have to advertise my academic degrees in order to feel validated. If I am proud of anything, I am proud to belong to a Church that the world hates--Jesus gave us a specific promise about being hated for His sake.Robert Kumpelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10567786012498143419noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7846189835239594160.post-91048485960249361382015-09-05T13:35:13.822-04:002015-09-05T13:35:13.822-04:00Seriously, Fr. mcD., this guy is a sad case, and h...Seriously, Fr. mcD., this guy is a sad case, and his acolyte has some strange affection for him and his his dissembled world view. If you want to address this situation, don't argue with the lunatic, speak to the slovenly editorial practices of the MT and why they would include this sort of drivel as serious opinion. I have not read this paper; do they have Page 6 girls and photo interviews with Miley Cyrus? You should get someone to pen an editorial on H. P. Lovecraft's insights to Jewish society. It appears from afar that "Dr." Cummings is working hard to compensate for a past failure. Not content with credentialism he is trying to cast blame on the instruction he failed. His momma dint love him enough. I sound harsh and regret it to the extent that Cummings needs therapy and compassion for his apprentice illness. rcghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09131930849106490711noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7846189835239594160.post-49172654100427433972015-09-05T13:34:48.714-04:002015-09-05T13:34:48.714-04:00When it comes to the Crusades, I really don't ...When it comes to the Crusades, I really don't get why so many act as though they lost a close relative to a knight's sword. The Pope has repeatedly apologised for them, but I'm not sure anyone takes it seriously, not because he's not sincere, but because he's apologising for something that happened 800 years ago.<br /><br />But, this *is* a world where 95 year old former Nazi's are hunted down and arrested. So, I'm not surprised.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00554830859411216515noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7846189835239594160.post-25220880871375541552015-09-05T13:06:30.618-04:002015-09-05T13:06:30.618-04:00In 2 Corinthians 5:7, St Paul wrote to the Christ...<br />In 2 Corinthians 5:7, St Paul wrote to the Christians at Corinth that " we walk by faith, not by sight". If only our faith in God and his Power was so strong that we could literally walk by faith! Sometimes though God allows thing to happen to aid us our in our faith. Such is the image of Our Lady of Guadalupe which scientists who have examined it can't explain, and such is the healing of Gemma-di-Giorgi.<br /><br />The miraculous healing of Gemma-di-Giorgi:<br /><br /><br><a href="http://ingodscompany2.blogspot.com/2013/07/the-healing-of-gemma-di-giorgi.html" rel="nofollow">the-healing-of-Gemma-di-Giorgi</a><br /><br />Other healings including Gemma-di-Giorgi...<br /><br /><br><a href="http://infallible-catholic.blogspot.com/2012/04/padre-pio-on-gift-of-healing.html" rel="nofollow">Padre-Pio-on-gift-of-healing</a><br /><br /><br /><br /><br />Georgenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7846189835239594160.post-12166238855677262752015-09-05T11:04:44.741-04:002015-09-05T11:04:44.741-04:00Fr, you are arguing with a third-rate hack who wri...Fr, you are arguing with a third-rate hack who writes for the Macon Telegraph, for God's sake, and some mental midget who, apparently, has a thing of some kind for has been Priests. Just ignore them and kick the trolls off the blog. They have absolutely nothing to offer the serious contributors on this blog.Calvin of Hipponoreply@blogger.com