tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7846189835239594160.post368833879738394469..comments2024-03-28T12:59:52.914-04:00Comments on southern orders: CHARLIE ROSE AND NOW MATT LAUER 20 YEARS THE ANCHOR OF THE TODAY SHOW!Fr. Allan J. McDonaldhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16986575955114152639noreply@blogger.comBlogger43125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7846189835239594160.post-31299926643536143562017-12-02T10:51:09.631-05:002017-12-02T10:51:09.631-05:00TJM:
Also, would you agree that a Catholic is not...TJM:<br /><br />Also, would you agree that a Catholic is not justified in lying or uttering falsehoods, or in propagating lies and falsehoods uttered by others, provided he or she is opposed to abortion?<br /><br />Anonymous 2noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7846189835239594160.post-60883862822916878842017-12-02T10:39:34.232-05:002017-12-02T10:39:34.232-05:00TJM:
I agree that Catholics should display honest...TJM:<br /><br />I agree that Catholics should display honesty and integrity when addressing the abortion issue. I also agree that Catholics should recognize abortion as an intrinsic evil and should not do things that are intended to “support or promote” abortion. This is a teaching of the Church. I do not agree that Catholics must always vote for the Republican candidate in an election just because that candidate says, and I repeat says, that he or she is opposed to legalized abortion. The call to honesty and integrity also includes a call to honesty about the guidance the Catholic Church provides on voting—specifically, in the United States, the guidance provided by the USCCB document “Faithful Citizenship.” In the matter of voting, integrity as a Catholic consists in conscientiously following the guidance given. <br />Anonymous 2noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7846189835239594160.post-42061479825591199212017-12-01T22:00:14.036-05:002017-12-01T22:00:14.036-05:00P.S. Correction -- In the penultimate sentence of ...P.S. Correction -- In the penultimate sentence of the second paragraph of my previous post the clause “and we will no longer be able to tell the difference between lies and falsehoods” should of course be “and we will no longer be able to tell the difference between lies and truth.”Anonymous 2noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7846189835239594160.post-57704202018887339642017-12-01T16:40:15.363-05:002017-12-01T16:40:15.363-05:00Anonymous 2, honesty and integrity can't be fo...Anonymous 2, honesty and integrity can't be found in Catholics who support the Abortion Party. They are trying to square a circle. They are not good people, but they are masquerading as good people by through their silly virtue signalling on non essential causes. If you can't be born, nothing else matters.TJMnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7846189835239594160.post-63089212944922405032017-12-01T16:10:11.625-05:002017-12-01T16:10:11.625-05:00TJM and Daniel (and everyone else):
There are two...TJM and Daniel (and everyone else):<br /><br />There are two words in the Catholic lexicon that should be our guides in assessing any of the hot button issues that get debated on this Blog, including the allegations of sexual misconduct against Roy Moore, President Trump, Al Franken, or the Catholic Church; various claims and other statements made by President Trump or other politicians; or indeed anything else. Those two words are honesty and integrity. We should seek to instantiate these two foundational virtues in our own lives, including when we debate political issues with one another, and we should demand that others, especially our political, intellectual, and spiritual leaders, seek to instantiate them in their own lives. <br /><br />Without these foundational virtues, the other virtues have little meaning. And without them I believe we are doomed. In the dreadful era in which we now live in which lies and falsehoods are normalized and are accepted if perpetrated by our own tribe, the dystopic world of 1984 is just around the corner. Unlike Winston Smith we do not have an O’Brien torturing us physically. Instead we are being psychologically mugged – by politicians and by the media (including social media). But the result will be the same. When the tribal authority figure holds up four fingers and asks us how many fingers there are, we will say five because that is what the tribal authority figure expects of us. Even worse, we will really believe there are five fingers, just as Winston did, and we will no longer be able to tell the difference between lies and falsehoods. And, of course, worst of all, we will love “Big Brother.”<br /><br />So, it is vital that we all try to rise about our petty tribal partisanship and stand for honesty and integrity. This means that we should not tolerate lies and other falsehoods, by whomever uttered, and we should not tolerate hypocrisy, by whomever displayed. Facts matter. Truth matters. Honesty matters. And integrity matters. This – and not tax reform, not immigration, not sexual misconduct per se, not North Korea, not even abortion as such – is the great calling of our time. I hope and pray that all Catholics (and many others) will stand up and be counted in answering this calling. Unless we do so, none of the other issues about which we care can be properly addressed and things will go very badly for the Republic and for the Church.<br /><br />Anonymous 2noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7846189835239594160.post-64472523447410877292017-12-01T14:14:50.997-05:002017-12-01T14:14:50.997-05:00Daniel,
Thanks for the laugh. The Democratic Part...Daniel,<br /><br />Thanks for the laugh. The Democratic Party supports intrinsic evils such as abortion and gay marriage. Hildabeast Clintoon said a child has no rights until they draw their first breath and was in favor of late term abortions. Abortion King Obama when he was a state senator in Illinois voted against a bill that would require healthcare providers to save the lives of an infant that survived an abortion. Obama through an executive order authorized the feds to pay for abortion. Did you fail logic? Need I go on or are you going to stick with your intellectually ridiculous argument. I am still waiting for your comments on Senator Oldsmobile Kennedy, Horndog Clintoon, Bawney Fwank, Gerry Studds (aptly named) and Conyers! TJMnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7846189835239594160.post-65603173658516154202017-12-01T10:51:40.545-05:002017-12-01T10:51:40.545-05:00TJM, no, you're wrong, I am not a Republican. ...TJM, no, you're wrong, I am not a Republican. I am a member of the only party with a track record of reducing & preventing abortions.Danielnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7846189835239594160.post-57001175054585281642017-12-01T10:07:45.865-05:002017-12-01T10:07:45.865-05:00Daniel,
Deflecting because your statement was rid...Daniel,<br /><br />Deflecting because your statement was ridiculous about Judge Moore and the people of Alabama. The reason you can't address the real examples I gave is because you are a witless supporter of the Abortion Party. You would have been the perfect little German in Hitler's Germany.TJMnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7846189835239594160.post-60579877129552797902017-11-30T18:24:38.351-05:002017-11-30T18:24:38.351-05:00What's the problem here?
Mark Ruffalo's ...What's the problem here? <br /><br />Mark Ruffalo's "arrogant, smug" attitude?<br /><br />Or an international scandal & coverup, reaching up to the cardinal level and the Vatican, that has cost the Church billions in settlements to victims?<br /><br />Yes, people like Ruffalo are obviously the real problem here.Danielnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7846189835239594160.post-92096592129385238822017-11-30T18:18:26.098-05:002017-11-30T18:18:26.098-05:00TJM, I'm not getting paid to explain history, ...TJM, I'm not getting paid to explain history, the American legal system and differing types of sexual misconduct to the willfully clueless. Not todayDanielnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7846189835239594160.post-45752140811012922082017-11-30T15:55:16.196-05:002017-11-30T15:55:16.196-05:00Hey, Daniel, still waiting for your insights on yo...Hey, Daniel, still waiting for your insights on your Dem heroes I referenced here!!TJMnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7846189835239594160.post-56308528348531970042017-11-30T15:07:32.796-05:002017-11-30T15:07:32.796-05:00"And when the press saw that it could sink th..."And when the press saw that it could sink the Church on this awful issue,..."<br /><br />There you go again.<br /><br />Blaming the messenger doesn't change the message. It is not the "press" that is sinking the Church, it is the behavior of Bishops and Priests.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7846189835239594160.post-91527362740582170802017-11-30T15:05:45.484-05:002017-11-30T15:05:45.484-05:00"But despite his decent sense of social justi..."But despite his decent sense of social justice, Mark Ruffalo has demonstrated that he possesses a smug, superior attitude in regard to his attitude and view of the One True Holy Catholic and Apostolic Church."<br /><br />If, unlike too many American bishops and priests, Mr. Ruffalo has not abused minors or covered up that abuse, then his position IS superior to that of members of the One True (sic) Holy Catholic and Apostolic Church.<br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7846189835239594160.post-8349164004739648502017-11-30T12:10:43.195-05:002017-11-30T12:10:43.195-05:00Daniel said..."Mark, Mr. Ruffalo's protes...Daniel said..."Mark, Mr. Ruffalo's protesting sexual abuse of children is not "gloating." <br /><br />Daniel, via interviews of Mister Ruffalo, I have encountered a man/actor who has a decent sense of social justice for oppressed people. I say "decent" sense as he lacks a powerful sense of social justice. His support for abortion demonstrates that he lacks a full and powerful sense of social justice. After all, abortion is the ultimate molestation/abuse of a (defenseless) person.<br /><br />But despite his decent sense of social justice, Mark Ruffalo has demonstrated that he possesses a smug, superior attitude in regard to his attitude and view of the One True Holy Catholic and Apostolic Church.<br /><br />He lectures to the Catholic Church not only in regard to the issue of priests who abused minors sexually.<br /><br />Mark Ruffalo also lectures Holy Mother Church in regard to Her holy teachings.<br /><br />Mark Ruffalo possesses an arrogant, smug, anti-Catholic attitude.<br /><br />Example:<br /><br />http://people.com/celebrity/mark-ruffalo-talks-hypocrisy-of-catholic-church-at-spotlight-premiere/<br /><br />Mark Ruffalo Slams 'Hypocrisy' of Catholicism: It 'Chilled My Relationship' with the Church<br /><br />Pax.<br /><br />Mark Thomas<br /><br />P.S. Father McDonald's comments in question are valid...100 percent valid.Mark Thomasnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7846189835239594160.post-92074032888459856872017-11-30T09:30:07.592-05:002017-11-30T09:30:07.592-05:00Daniel,
I see you ran away from my response becau...Daniel,<br /><br />I see you ran away from my response because you can't respond in a credible manner, or maybe because they are members of the Abortion Party, so in your mind, they get a passTJMnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7846189835239594160.post-83513851084112573632017-11-30T08:37:44.048-05:002017-11-30T08:37:44.048-05:00The fact of the matter is that the press did not d...The fact of the matter is that the press did not do its job or go after other child and teenage sex abuse cases in other venues, like the public school system because it did not fulfill their agenda, for which they gloat over, and that is promoting a culture of abortion, sexual license, artificial contraception, same sex unions, euthanasia and other hot button issues. <br /><br />Percentage of child sexual abuse and other kinds of abuse is staggering in our society today and most of it happens in the home. Any news on this? NO!!<br /><br />Why? Read my first paragraph.<br /><br />And when the press saw that it could sink the Church on this awful issue, which the Church is only part of the problem, because the Church can have her dress sued off, while public and governmental organizations can't, all the more reason to single out the Church for political reasons. Fr. Allan J. McDonaldhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16986575955114152639noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7846189835239594160.post-26346547192183470872017-11-30T07:53:21.178-05:002017-11-30T07:53:21.178-05:00Mark Thomas - We all know that some comedians make...Mark Thomas - We all know that some comedians make the Church the butt of their jokes. This is nothing new.<br /><br />And it is not gloating.<br /><br />That some harbor an anti-Catholic bias is also nothing new. And it is also not gloating.<br /><br />You have posted:<br /><br />"Protesters, many of whom identify as victims of abuse by Catholic priests, marched and brandished banners outside the Cathedral of Our Lady of Angels Sunday morning.<br /><br />"Ruffalo, Singer and McCarthy, who were invited by the group to appear, joined them in calling on the church to take greater action against sexual abuse and release the names of known abusers."<br /><br />There is nothing inappropriate in this. While it may make some people very uncomfortable, it is an acceptable response, one that should come as no surprise to anyone.<br /><br />Referring to Stewart's comments as "foul and obscene" pales in comparison to the harm done by those who abuse others sexually.<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7846189835239594160.post-80788701613654278582017-11-30T07:10:33.732-05:002017-11-30T07:10:33.732-05:00Mark, Mr. Ruffalo's protesting sexual abuse of...Mark, Mr. Ruffalo's protesting sexual abuse of children is not "gloating." <br />This discussion shows how the sex scandal led Catholic conservatives into some sick & creepy places.<br />15 years later, we are still playing "See? Not so bad!" <br />PeaceDanielnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7846189835239594160.post-23874667126091288712017-11-30T02:16:56.654-05:002017-11-30T02:16:56.654-05:00Father McDonald has noted the two-faced manner in ...Father McDonald has noted the two-faced manner in which news/entertainment organizations promote immorality while gloating in regard to sexual abuse cases that have involved priests.<br /><br />Here is an example of the above:<br /><br />Actor Mark Ruffalo starred in the move Spotlight, which glorified The Boston Globe's "investigation into cases of widespread and systemic child sex abuse in the Boston area by numerous Roman Catholic priests."<br />========================================================<br /><br />http://www.latimes.com/entertainment/movies/moviesnow/la-me-spotlight-protest-downtown-la-20160228-story.html<br /><br />Mark Ruffalo, 'Spotlight' creators join Catholic sex abuse victims' rally in downtown L.A. <br /><br />"About 20 protesters who rallied against sexual abuse in the Catholic church in downtown Los Angeles were joined by "Spotlight" actor Mark Ruffalo, the film's director Tom McCarthy and its writer Josh Singer on Sunday.<br /><br />"Protesters, many of whom identify as victims of abuse by Catholic priests, marched and brandished banners outside the Cathedral of Our Lady of Angels Sunday morning.<br /><br />"Ruffalo, Singer and McCarthy, who were invited by the group to appear, joined them in calling on the church to take greater action against sexual abuse and release the names of known abusers.<br /><br />"The "Spotlight" creators each held a section of a banner printed with the victims' childhood photos and addressed the protesters before heading to pre-Oscar parties and the red carpet.<br /><br />"I'm here to stand with the survivors and the victims and the people we've lost from Catholic priest childhood sex abuse," Ruffalo told protesters. <br /><br />"The protest, organized by the group Survivors Network of those Abused by Priests..."<br />=============================================================<br /><br />Actor Mark Ruffalo Proud of His Mother for Aborting His Sibling<br /><br />http://www.lifenews.com/2013/08/20/actor-mark-ruffalo-proud-of-his-mother-for-aborting-his-sibling/<br /><br />"Actor Mark Ruffalo is causing a stir with a column he wrote defending abortion. But Ruffalo goes further than merely defending legalized abortion — he apologizes for and defends his mother getting an illegal abortion of his own sibling.<br />=========================================================================<br /><br />Abortion is the ultimate molestation/abuse of a child. <br /><br />But abortion is acceptable to certain folks who lead the charge against priests accused of sexual abuse against minors.<br /><br />Pax.<br /><br />Mark Thomas<br /><br />Mark Thomasnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7846189835239594160.post-87399921935944488312017-11-29T23:55:23.920-05:002017-11-29T23:55:23.920-05:00Anonymous said..."If Jon Stewart offered &quo...Anonymous said..."If Jon Stewart offered "harsh" and "angry" criticism of the way too many sex abuse claims were handled - mishandled, rather - by too many bishops, that harshness and anger were entirely justified."<br /><br />Jon Stewart trafficked in foul, obscene anti-Catholic "criticism" in regard to the manner in which certain Churchmen handled the sexual abuse scandal in question.<br /><br />Jon Stewart promoted lies against Pope Benedict XVI when Mister Stewart claimed that Pope Benedict XVI had covered up the abuse scandal.<br />===============================================================<br /><br />Additional information that supports Father McDonald's comments in question in regard to media outlets:<br /><br />In regard to Jon Stewart's Daily Show and anti-Catholic mockery and gloating...from 2010 A.D.<br /><br />http://the-american-catholic.com/2010/06/28/comedy-centrals-anti-catholic-bigotry/<br /><br />Pax.<br /><br />Mark Thomas<br />Mark Thomasnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7846189835239594160.post-35809184320794872602017-11-29T23:34:27.886-05:002017-11-29T23:34:27.886-05:00Anonymous said..."In response, Mark Thomas ci...Anonymous said..."In response, Mark Thomas cites several so-called comedians -- not the New York Times, or "the media" or the New York Times or the Boston Globe. False witness!"<br /><br />Please note that Father McDonald offered the following:<br /><br />" Like priests, celebrities and politicians are falling like flies!<br /><br />"WHEN WILL THE MEDIA DISCUSS THE SEXUAL DISORDERS BROUGHT ON BY ORIGINAL SIN'S CONCUPISCENCE AND ACTUAL SIN THROUGH FULL CONSENT OF THE WILL?<br /><br />"...when will these reporters who work for Fox, Universal and Time Warner (Fox, NBC and CNN) face up to the smut their companies create and disseminate, such as hard and soft core pornography, that degrades everyone, male, female and child and all for profit."<br /><br />"The executives, producers, directors, writers and everyone else with a sophomoric mentality who manipulates and corrupts those who watch, should be held accountable and yes, fired."<br />===========================================================================<br /><br />Father McDonald's above comments are valid.<br /><br />Via powerful media corporations, platforms were provided to people who attacked and mocked Catholicism in regard to the microscopic percentage of priests who abused minors sexually.<br /><br />Anonymous, you said: "In response, Mark Thomas cites several so-called comedians -- not the New York Times, or "the media" or the New York Times or the Boston Globe."<br /><br />Sorry, but it is a fact that "the media" attacked, mocked and gloated in regard to priests, the Church, and the abuse scandal.<br /><br />It turned out that such men as David Letterman and Louis C.K., who were among those who mocked and gloated over Catholicism's sex abuse scandal, engaged in vile sexual misconduct.<br /><br />The men in question did so via "the media."<br /><br />Father McDonald made valid points, Anonymous. <br /><br />Pax.<br /><br />Mark ThomasMark Thomasnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7846189835239594160.post-38506973798856283042017-11-29T21:35:42.560-05:002017-11-29T21:35:42.560-05:00Comedians joke about things. It's what they do...Comedians joke about things. It's what they do. It's pretty much their job description.<br />15 years ago, they were skewering Cardinal Law, tonight Matt Lauwer. <br />In any case, it's a desperate stretch to conflate them with the journalists who exposed the church scandals, who (judging by their work) were honest, fair and respectfully done. They did God's work in protecting children and their families. Would that our church leaders had as much integrity.<br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7846189835239594160.post-27051990953540492472017-11-29T20:37:25.695-05:002017-11-29T20:37:25.695-05:00Anonymous, you left out Cardinal "Roger Dodge...Anonymous, you left out Cardinal "Roger Dodger "Mahoney (liberal) who had a far worse record than Law and even lied under oath. He should be in prison. Mahoney received less bad press because he supported many of the Abortion Party's pet causesTJMnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7846189835239594160.post-56676312055887118052017-11-29T20:32:55.170-05:002017-11-29T20:32:55.170-05:00Daniel,
First of all Roy Moore's accusers lac...Daniel,<br /><br />First of all Roy Moore's accusers lack credibility and there is no solid evidence of ANYTHING - other than a political hit job.<br /><br />But let's take a trip down the memory lane with liberals (Dems) elected to office and for which no price was paid:<br /><br />Ted Kennedy - killed a woman under very questionable circumstances<br /><br />Jerry Studds - Congressman from Mass had anal sex with an underage male page<br /><br />Barney Frank - gay boyfriend ran a brothel out of their DC apartment<br /><br />Bill "Horndog" Clintoon - settled sexual harassment cases with his victims, was credibly accused of rape, and molestation (interestingly by all Dem woman)<br /><br />Al Franken - Molester<br /><br />Conyers - Molester<br /><br />All of the above are Dems, who were either re-elected or never resigned.<br /><br />So why don't you grow upTJMnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7846189835239594160.post-37148401023274338922017-11-29T18:49:50.655-05:002017-11-29T18:49:50.655-05:00The Catholic Church has been the butt of many come...The Catholic Church has been the butt of many comedians' jokes. That is not gloating.<br /><br />If Jon Stewart offered "harsh" and "angry" criticism of the way too many sex abuse claims were handled - mishandled, rather - by too many bishops, that harshness and anger were entirely justified. I've heard and you've read very harsh and angry criticism from within the Church, including from clergy and religious.<br /><br />Regarding Cardinal Law: "Law was the Archbishop of Boston from 1984 until his resignation on December 13, 2002, in response to the Roman Catholic Church sex abuse scandal after church documents showed he had extensive knowledge of sexual abuse committed by dozens of Catholic priests within his archdiocese. One priest alone was alleged to have raped or molested 130 children over decades, while Law and other local officials moved him among churches rather than going to the authorities."<br /><br />He is lucky he was only "skewered" and not imprisoned.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com