tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7846189835239594160.post3683041467227803626..comments2024-03-18T20:55:55.914-04:00Comments on southern orders: JUST HOW MUCH OF THE MASS DO YOU LIKE TO SING OR HEAR SUNG?Fr. Allan J. McDonaldhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16986575955114152639noreply@blogger.comBlogger5125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7846189835239594160.post-67268984629559654912017-03-16T17:40:58.342-04:002017-03-16T17:40:58.342-04:00You can actually sing everything in the OF, includ...You can actually sing everything in the OF, including the Canon, and the new English version has adapted the Latin chants which Solesmes produced for the NO in 1974.<br /><br />There is a case for arguing that at least some of those who fabricated the new Mass intended it to be sung (as is the Eastern Divine Liturgy), thus solving the 'Low Mass problem'. But those who favoured informality and diversity seem to have prevailed. John Nolanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09027156691859606002noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7846189835239594160.post-36229492870414946912017-03-15T18:32:50.770-04:002017-03-15T18:32:50.770-04:00I prefer that everything be sung in the OF....I prefer that everything be sung in the OF....Православный физикhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11313371333531421128noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7846189835239594160.post-58950908200114244232017-03-15T15:18:48.581-04:002017-03-15T15:18:48.581-04:00I happen to agree with the statement in their webs...I happen to agree with the statement in their website. But I think, as TJM points out, we would use a lot of bandwidth in a litany of the sinners that should be in our hall when the goal should be to rid ourselves of that burden rather than let it define us. rcghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09131930849106490711noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7846189835239594160.post-29301209522626595852017-03-15T10:58:26.896-04:002017-03-15T10:58:26.896-04:00Henry,
In other words, they have no standards. Th...Henry,<br /><br />In other words, they have no standards. They also committed a terrible faux pas by not welcoming the "transgender" crowd.TJMnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7846189835239594160.post-6813038796765726232017-03-15T10:42:42.462-04:002017-03-15T10:42:42.462-04:00My knowledge of Anglican liturgy is only internet ...My knowledge of Anglican liturgy is only internet based, but this versus populum celebration does not seem particularly "high" to me, even if its level of solemnity does put to shame the typical Catholic parish Novus Ordo Mass.<br /><br />I recall seeing a blog comment by an Episcopalian that the typical "high" Anglican Mass would be celebrated ad orientem. Perhaps it's a "nose-bleed high" Anglican Mass that would be celebrated using the "English Missal", a stately English translation of the Tridentine missal. See <a href="http://www.angelfire.com/pa3/OldWorldBasic/knottmissal.html" rel="nofollow"><b>here</b></a> for the English and Latin side by side.<br /><br />For instance, an Episcopal parish that uses the English Missal is <a href="http://www.saintclementsphiladelphia.org/" rel="nofollow"><b>St. Clement’s Church</b></a> in Philadelphia. From the pastor's welcome there:<br /><br /><b> Our worship is Anglo-Catholic, our music and liturgy traditional – and spectacular. Our growing outreach flows from the Mass, the preaching and teaching of the Gospel, the daily Divine Office. . . . If you want to experience a little of “the beauty of holiness”, the High Mass according to the English Missal gives…</b><br /><br />Scan through the photos <a href="https://www.flickr.com/photos/saintclementsphiladelphia/sets/72157649970789061/" rel="nofollow"><b>here</b></a> to see a Mass that looks "higher" in mere visual appearance than the usual (actual Catholic) solemn high Mass. That being the case, the following, also from the welcome, seems curious:<br /><br /><b>"We welcome people of all colors, male & female, straight & gay, single & married with children, rich & poor. So you qualify! No matter who you are, you belong here."</b><br /><br />In the Roman Catholic world, we tend to associate traditional liturgy with orthodox doctrine. But I've also heard an allegedly "nose-bleed high" Episcopal parish in Atlanta described as "progressive and welcoming".Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com