tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7846189835239594160.post3435991069412099865..comments2024-03-28T20:30:10.681-04:00Comments on southern orders: LEFTIST PROGRESSIVES SMEARING FIGURES OF CHURCH AND AMERICAN HISTORYFr. Allan J. McDonaldhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16986575955114152639noreply@blogger.comBlogger50125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7846189835239594160.post-4594699718756989632017-08-15T11:58:10.445-04:002017-08-15T11:58:10.445-04:00"White supremacy - - whatever that means...&q..."White supremacy - - whatever that means..."<br /><br />There are none so blind (and privileged and "entitled") as those who will not see.<br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7846189835239594160.post-76777140432221355442017-08-15T11:12:13.381-04:002017-08-15T11:12:13.381-04:00The evil left will not be satisfied until Mount Ve...The evil left will not be satisfied until Mount Vernon and Monticello are destroyedTJMnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7846189835239594160.post-53308503857722329652017-08-15T08:38:13.846-04:002017-08-15T08:38:13.846-04:00Well...as another example of lawlessness on the Le...Well...as another example of lawlessness on the Left, what looked like a crowd of white liberals toppled a Confederate statue in Durham, NC (home of Duke University, which probably tells you a lot). No arrests---I guess it is OK to deface and destroy things ones does not like. if you are on the Left. Here in Atlanta a few nights ago, some idiots defaced a "peace statue" which they thought was a Confederate one, and----no arrests. (This was after demonstrators blocked the streets, without a permit of course, and went on a march asking to "end white supremacy"---whatever that means.) I was too young to recall it, but like we are going back to the bad old days of the late 1960s and early 1970s with Leftist lawlessness.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7846189835239594160.post-61154656130951929562017-08-14T22:57:30.611-04:002017-08-14T22:57:30.611-04:00The Progressives have aligned themselves with ISIS...The Progressives have aligned themselves with ISIS, destroying history rather than learning from it. They condemn their own intellectual foundations with the same hammers they use on thoughts they don't like. They oppose thoughts but attack people for having them. And yes, this extends from the same suppression that removed altar rails and prayers. They want everything to fit in the right bundle. FrAJM, what is the Italian for 'bundle'? rcghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09131930849106490711noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7846189835239594160.post-9591931383597501292017-08-14T12:22:19.796-04:002017-08-14T12:22:19.796-04:00Daniel part of my post is that progressives are tr...Daniel part of my post is that progressives are trying to eradicate southern history rightly or wrongly by say that since people back then weren't as morally superior as we are today given modern sensibilities, we should remove any images of southern figures who fall short of today's moral perfection. I think Pope Francis said something about those who think they are perfect.<br /><br />My comment about Martin Luther is playing this same game, because from my morally superior perspective, Martin Luther is a dispicable historical figure who should not be celebrated today. Martin Luther should be treated as Robert E Lee in Charlottesville!<br />Fr. Allan J. McDonaldhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16986575955114152639noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7846189835239594160.post-54191679452552121142017-08-14T11:15:31.196-04:002017-08-14T11:15:31.196-04:00Martin - You won't accept it, but I did not co...Martin - You won't accept it, but I did not compare CSA leaders and Nazi leaders. I compared honoring them. I did not propose an equivalency between CSA leaders and Nazi leaders, I proposed an equivalency between HONORING CSA leaders and HONORING Nazi leaders.Fr. Michael J. Kavanaughnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7846189835239594160.post-39472338892562790252017-08-14T10:49:31.071-04:002017-08-14T10:49:31.071-04:00My above comment is from an on line newspaper.My above comment is from an on line newspaper.Fr. Allan J. McDonaldhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16986575955114152639noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7846189835239594160.post-63208497400052085782017-08-14T10:48:39.816-04:002017-08-14T10:48:39.816-04:00Martin Luther Is About Nationalism, Not About Reli...Martin Luther Is About Nationalism, Not About Religion<br /><br />The Lutheran schism was the first manifestation of German nationalism according to the historian Maria Elvira Roca Barela writing in the leftwing Spanish daily El País (July 23). Roca states that interpreting Luther as a religious phenomenon does not help to understand him. For her "Luther was the great defender of the oligarchies, the religious guarantor of a late feudalism that kept Germany in backwardness and poverty."<br /><br />Roca notices Luther's hatred for the non-German world, among them Jews, and recalls that the Kristallnacht on 9-10 November 1938 during which Jewish property was destroyed in Germany, was explicitly connected to the 450 birthday of Martin Luther.<br /><br />Nevertheless the big assumption of the Luther jubilee is that Protestant Germany is morally superior to the non-Protestant world according to Roca.<br /><br />Picture: Martin Luther, #newsNwicigkmsqFr. Allan J. McDonaldhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16986575955114152639noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7846189835239594160.post-10814072124202551612017-08-14T10:38:50.908-04:002017-08-14T10:38:50.908-04:00I don't follow the connection between Martin L...I don't follow the connection between Martin Luther & the slavery issue, but his writings on Jews were truly vile. You are correct.<br /><br />And the Congressional ban on diplomatic ties with the Vatican, I am guessing, are part and parcel of the rampant anti-Catholicism in the US at the time, which of course was closely connected to anti-Irish & -Italian bigotry and anti-immigrant sentiment. Catholics were the Muslims of the 19th Century.<br />Danielnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7846189835239594160.post-29984099012225925392017-08-14T10:33:15.832-04:002017-08-14T10:33:15.832-04:00Of course no one is complaining about the Catholic...Of course no one is complaining about the Catholic Church celebrating a man of history and from Germany who was an avowed anti Semite who wrote volumes against the Jews (which might well be a part of the rank and file German acquiescence to the Holocaust at their back doors. Forget about Martin Luther seceding from the true Church and the religious strife and countless deaths this caused!Fr. Allan J. McDonaldhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16986575955114152639noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7846189835239594160.post-70144524231422155852017-08-14T10:26:52.651-04:002017-08-14T10:26:52.651-04:00Above from Wikipedia Above from Wikipedia Fr. Allan J. McDonaldhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16986575955114152639noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7846189835239594160.post-87898518922499257062017-08-14T10:26:22.712-04:002017-08-14T10:26:22.712-04:00Although Pope Pius IX never signed an actual state...Although Pope Pius IX never signed an actual statement supporting the Confederacy, he responded to a letter written by Jefferson Davis on 23 September 1863 with a letter to Davis written 3 December 1863. Pius's "letter to Jefferson Davis was accompanied by an autographed picture of the pope"[9] in which the Pope addressed the Confederate President as "the "Honorable President of the Confederate States of America".[10][11] This simple courtesy, though it had no legal effect, has been seized upon by some to claim that it showed that the Pope recognized (at least on a personal level) the Confederate States of America to be an actual country (and separate from the United States).[12][13] In fact, no diplomatic relations or recognitions were extended in either direction. But this letter caused Congress to, in 1867, explicitly ban diplomatic ties with the Vatican.[14]<br /><br />Charles Chiniquy vowed that that letter caused great distress to the president.[15] Robert E. Lee, pointing to his own portrait of Pius IX, told a visitor after the war that he was "the only sovereign... in Europe who recognized our poor Confederacy".[16]<br /><br />The letter was delivered to the Pope by Davis's commmissioner to Belgium, Ambrose Dudley Mann. During his visit with the Pope, Mann discussed the successful recruitment efforts by the Union who were recruiting thousands of soldiers from Ireland and Belgium, both Catholic countries. According to Clement Eaton, "Mann persuaded the Pope to discourage this enlistment of Catholics in Europe." [12]Fr. Allan J. McDonaldhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16986575955114152639noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7846189835239594160.post-32502218011881203902017-08-14T10:23:04.440-04:002017-08-14T10:23:04.440-04:00Father Kavanaugh:
You didn't "contrast&q...Father Kavanaugh:<br /><br />You didn't "contrast" honoring Confederate heroes to honoring Hitler and Goebbels, you <i>compared</i> them -- that is, you posed an equivalency.<br /><br />And I repeat: that is obscene, profoundly ignorant and incompetent.<br /><br />Further, all this equivocating and hair-splitting on your part is just embarrassing.<br /><br /><br /><br />Fr Martin Foxhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01375628123126091747noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7846189835239594160.post-15623594994887856862017-08-14T10:22:58.412-04:002017-08-14T10:22:58.412-04:00During southern slavery many bishops and not a few...During southern slavery many bishops and not a few rectories has slave laboerers, in other words they owned slaves. The complete condemnation of slavery is relatively modern, and yes on target. But the Church as with the recent condemnation of the death penalty, which is a good example of the Church as a Johnny come lately on social issues, but needed nonetheless even centuries ago, Fr. Allan J. McDonaldhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16986575955114152639noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7846189835239594160.post-56598163859554842022017-08-14T10:02:07.552-04:002017-08-14T10:02:07.552-04:00Bee,
You knocked it out of the park! Kudos.Bee,<br /><br />You knocked it out of the park! Kudos.TJMnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7846189835239594160.post-25372402690257327672017-08-14T09:29:22.509-04:002017-08-14T09:29:22.509-04:00While Jesus mentioned slavery, I don't recall ...While Jesus mentioned slavery, I don't recall where he defended it or urged folks to fight a war to defend it. Perhaps you can cite a reference on that.Danielnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7846189835239594160.post-47717231134600711672017-08-14T09:25:52.522-04:002017-08-14T09:25:52.522-04:00I did not say everything in the South disgusts me....I did not say everything in the South disgusts me. That is an odd comment.<br />And "what about the crucifix in urine" is hardly a Catholic response to a huge moral issue that destroyed millions of lives.<br />Obviously, you're not thinking clearly on this topic.<br />You're responding to my comments with trivia and misdirection, rather than addressing the immorality -- as stated by the church -- of slavery and those who support it.<br />Danielnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7846189835239594160.post-54408005068331639122017-08-14T09:21:52.023-04:002017-08-14T09:21:52.023-04:00Daniel, non believers criticize the historical Jes...Daniel, non believers criticize the historical Jesus for his positive slave imagery and yes they seek to dethrone our Lord and His Church over it and His teachings on marriage and sexuality which they see as bigotry and exclusionary!Fr. Allan J. McDonaldhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16986575955114152639noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7846189835239594160.post-16346560500041822572017-08-14T09:06:03.326-04:002017-08-14T09:06:03.326-04:00So everything from the south disgusts you includin...So everything from the south disgusts you including southerners be they clergy or laity. And southern art in her books, poetry, Hollywood movies and the like you want eradicated! <br /><br />Did you write your sentiments to northeast museums who displayed a crucifix in urine, vile excremental thrown on images of Our Lady and other such actual trash which is the promotion of bigotry towards Catholics and conservative Protestants but cloaked under the banner of art<br /><br />What is in your martini?Fr. Allan J. McDonaldhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16986575955114152639noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7846189835239594160.post-23306107023504470162017-08-14T08:56:21.154-04:002017-08-14T08:56:21.154-04:00And yes, obviously, criticizing Confederate leader...And yes, obviously, criticizing Confederate leaders is exactly like attacking Jesus Christ (sarcasm).<br />What's in the water at Richmond Hill, Father??????Danielnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7846189835239594160.post-8268762755512471532017-08-14T08:54:25.183-04:002017-08-14T08:54:25.183-04:00I found this post, by a Catholic priest, painful a...I found this post, by a Catholic priest, painful and embarrassing.<br />Popes began condemning slavery in 1435. Most Americans opposed slavery long before the Civil War and most American states prohibited slavery by that time.<br />So slaveholders and their defenders were not shaped by their time. Quite the opposite. They were the equivalent of Catholic politicians who support abortion rights over the church's opposition. Would you defend them by saying they are just "shaped by their time"?<br /><br />Also offensive is the Gone With the Wind book and movie (you post a scene above) that depicts Scarlett's family as both devout Rosary-reciting Catholics and slaveholders. Again, that's the moral equivalent of backing abortion. Disgusting!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7846189835239594160.post-88971055927976289392017-08-13T22:47:53.858-04:002017-08-13T22:47:53.858-04:00Bee here:
Fr. Kavanaugh said: " We need to f...Bee here:<br /><br />Fr. Kavanaugh said: " We need to fall at the feet of our victims and beg for mercy."<br /><br />Gee, now THAT is something I'd like to see from Fr. Kavanaugh, especially towards the victims of his tart remarks.<br /><br />God bless,<br />BeeAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7846189835239594160.post-71932433121013418742017-08-13T18:02:28.008-04:002017-08-13T18:02:28.008-04:00Martin, there is a world of difference between com...Martin, there is a world of difference between comparing/contrasting apples and oranges and comparing eating apples and oranges.<br /><br />If you think there is no difference, try biting into the orange without peeling it and you will learn the difference quickly. Or try separating an apple into it's natural sections...<br /><br />(Add to this the small but significant fact that two of my great-grandfathers fought for the South in the Late Great Unpleasantness. One, my maternal great-grandfather, was a slave owner in Charleston, SC. Neither they nor the generals who led them were anything like Nazis, and I never suggested such.)Fr. Michael J. Kavanaughnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7846189835239594160.post-71848037533876657972017-08-13T15:58:28.487-04:002017-08-13T15:58:28.487-04:00Fr Kavanaugh:
Your response is like someone who s...Fr Kavanaugh:<br /><br />Your response is like someone who says, oh, I didn't <i>compare</i> apples and oranges; I simply compared <i>eating</i> apples and oranges!<br /><br />It's a ridiculous splitting of hairs. The fact is, you <i>did</i> compare the heroes of the Confederacy to Hitler and Goebbels, and now you're trying to weasel out of it.<br /><br />Just own up to it.Fr Martin Foxhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01375628123126091747noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7846189835239594160.post-74029266532830617982017-08-13T14:48:14.307-04:002017-08-13T14:48:14.307-04:00As a Catholic I find photos of Abortion King, Obam...As a Catholic I find photos of Abortion King, Obama, offensive. So we should sanatize them while we're at it and stop showing him any deference ! TJMnoreply@blogger.com