tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7846189835239594160.post2868502755079379868..comments2024-03-28T20:30:10.681-04:00Comments on southern orders: CATHOLIC FUNERALS GONE WILDFr. Allan J. McDonaldhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16986575955114152639noreply@blogger.comBlogger4125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7846189835239594160.post-64013377948340107992015-07-25T14:22:29.963-04:002015-07-25T14:22:29.963-04:00Carol:
I read the article. I did not know about th...Carol:<br />I read the article. I did not know about this. <br /><br />Below is the link:<br /><br /><br><a href="http://www.hprweb.com/2015/07/kneeling-ban-good-liturgy-or-loss-of-religious-freedom/" rel="nofollow">To kneel or not to kneel? </a><br /><br />Georgenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7846189835239594160.post-20922774411053771692015-07-25T13:04:01.733-04:002015-07-25T13:04:01.733-04:00@The Greek,
The body is received into the church ...@The Greek,<br /><br />The body is received into the church the evening before the funeral and there is a ritual for this even in the Novus Ordo, the funeral rites of which are so lamentable that I shall refrain from referring to them. Vespers for the dead (Placebo) and Matins (Dirige) are unlikely to be used outside a monastic setting although in pre-Reformatiom England they were almost de rigueur.<br /><br />This all reinforces the point I made a few days ago. In some parts of Europe and in the United States one even has a 'funeral Mass' in the presence of the already cremated remains. This would make sense if the deceased had been incinerated in, for example, an air crash, in which case they would be placed in a coffin. But the idea of interment preceding Requiem Mass turns the whole liturgy on its head. It's madness, but we Catholics are not strangers to this since V2.<br /><br />When Orthodoxy was deeply compromised by the iconoclastic movement Rome remained orthodox. Perhaps the time has come when the Byzantine Church needs to rescue Rome from the tide of Modernism and relativism which seems to have engulfed her. Oremus pro invicem. <br /><br />John Nolanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09027156691859606002noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7846189835239594160.post-75651580957489870582015-07-25T03:37:59.297-04:002015-07-25T03:37:59.297-04:00Sorry this is unrelated, but Homiletic and Pastora...Sorry this is unrelated, but Homiletic and Pastoral Review has an excellent article on KNEELING BANS that I think you would be interested in.<br /><br />Carol H.https://www.blogger.com/profile/02475843499648488542noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7846189835239594160.post-37600551896610502532015-07-24T22:23:57.892-04:002015-07-24T22:23:57.892-04:00The celebrant should not become enraged. I've ...The celebrant should not become enraged. I've given homilies where I've had to stop and finish at the end of the Divine Liturgy on account of the children in the church. I'm not going to scold them and their parents for something children do naturally.<br /><br />This is a little different, I know, but wouldn't they have consulted the priest before the funeral? Why didn't this come up? Or did it come up, and he refused? I'd like to say funerals aren't the time to scold people (or become "enraged"), but some (FrZ sometimes posts articles about this) use the funeral as reason to try and receive the Eucharist in a state of sin, or whatever; later, they use the funeral setting as a 'scenery' when the drama is acted out on the news. <b>This is just as wrong.</b><br /><br />Someone help me: does the new Mass have a vigil the night before the funeral before? Honestly, had the priest refused to have an extra reading, this additional reading could have been done in conjunction with the Office of the Dead, or else along with other readings, assuming the funeral-proper is the only thing Catholic mourners do. The idea these days is that funerals are 'up and done' with no other action required.<br />The Greeknoreply@blogger.com