tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7846189835239594160.post279402504096834900..comments2024-03-28T20:30:10.681-04:00Comments on southern orders: IS THE LATIN RITE GOING TO HAVE ONLY ONE FORM OF THE MASS IN THE FUTURE? SOMEONE HIGH UP THINKS SO. IS HE CLAIRVOYANT OR MAYBE NOT? TIME WILL TELL!Fr. Allan J. McDonaldhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16986575955114152639noreply@blogger.comBlogger7125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7846189835239594160.post-65635472840339116092011-05-17T16:13:20.170-04:002011-05-17T16:13:20.170-04:00Yes it will eventually have one Rite and I agree w...Yes it will eventually have one Rite and I agree with Fr Z that its not likely in my life time (Im'm 49). I don't plan on waiting. I will relocate in about 7 years and it will be to a Diocese that is more supportive of Tradition and the EF. Leading candidate is currently Konxville in East TN.Templarhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18204866760862707908noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7846189835239594160.post-19727423450967349512011-05-17T09:54:56.330-04:002011-05-17T09:54:56.330-04:00That is a very good question and one that I've...That is a very good question and one that I've thought about too! I don't know how this organic development will occur. I do know that since I've started celebrating the EF Mass, I'm more concious about how I celebrate the OF. Since the OF has almost no rubrics about the use of the pall, I've incorporated the EF's rubrics into the OF for it's use. <br />All I can say is that we can watch how the Holy Father models the OF Mass. However, he hasn't modeled for us the EF Mass--that would be interesting!Fr. Allan J. McDonaldhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16986575955114152639noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7846189835239594160.post-7168179366096376422011-05-17T09:49:38.024-04:002011-05-17T09:49:38.024-04:00Father, maybe you can help me with this. I'm ...Father, maybe you can help me with this. I'm OK with both forms of the Mass, but for any "organic development" to take place between the two rites, one of two things has to happen:<br /><br />1) Someone is going to have to violate the rubrics of either form to change one toward the other<br /><br />or<br /><br />2) The Vatican will legislate a "combined" form. That has already been tried once, by the Consilium, and the results have been rupture and disorder.<br /><br />How can this "mutual gravitational pull" of the two rites take place without either committing liturgical abuse or creating something out of both by papal fiat?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7846189835239594160.post-5516016666849953772011-05-17T09:39:09.230-04:002011-05-17T09:39:09.230-04:00Considering that the Pope desires and organic deve...Considering that the Pope desires and organic development of the Mass, I think a range of 50-100 years from now is about right. I think the Mass will ultimately evolve into the NO as it exist beginning this Advent, except the Altar will be move back to it's rightful place; all masses will be ad orientem; and communion will be on the tongue kneeling.Jody Petermannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7846189835239594160.post-62325885139064451972011-05-17T09:35:33.427-04:002011-05-17T09:35:33.427-04:00I do see facing ad orientem as a possible option, ...I do see facing ad orientem as a possible option, but I would never do it without our bishop's prior approval and explaining and teaching the people why we are doing this. If it were to be an option at St. Joseph, I would see it at only one Mass.Fr. Allan J. McDonaldhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16986575955114152639noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7846189835239594160.post-10645986989119870342011-05-17T09:34:15.771-04:002011-05-17T09:34:15.771-04:00The donor wouldn't be happy and the current le...The donor wouldn't be happy and the current legislation for new altars is that these be free standing--keep in mind the papal altar at St. Peter's is free standing and it is ancient. On top of that it would not please the donor who gave it as a gift to the Church and in memory of family members! It would look odd to celebrate Mass on the old altar (from the congregation's vantage point) with the new altar in front of it.Fr. Allan J. McDonaldhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16986575955114152639noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7846189835239594160.post-9012045818736322292011-05-17T09:20:56.358-04:002011-05-17T09:20:56.358-04:00I like the High Altar at SJ. Is there ever a time ...I like the High Altar at SJ. Is there ever a time when you can use that and not the new altar (what is the new altar called?) Can we ever get rid of the new altar and just use the high altar? In a regular OF do you think you will ever face ad orientem?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com