tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7846189835239594160.post2570573005875414271..comments2024-03-28T05:17:04.006-04:00Comments on southern orders: WILL A LESS THAN HUMBLE POPULIST POPE LISTEN TO OTHERS ABOUT ENDING HIS OFF-THE-CUFF CHATTER (CHIACCHIERARE)?Fr. Allan J. McDonaldhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16986575955114152639noreply@blogger.comBlogger10125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7846189835239594160.post-58849945173941111522015-01-25T11:01:38.242-05:002015-01-25T11:01:38.242-05:00Anon2
We can also preface any attribution to the ...Anon2<br /><br />We can also preface any attribution to the Holy Father with a qualification (if it is lacking full context and possibly an adequate and accurate translation) and include "was reported to have said" or "was quoted as saying".Georgenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7846189835239594160.post-54234997069800000492015-01-24T20:33:11.740-05:002015-01-24T20:33:11.740-05:00Anon2
Right.
All of us really should, if we refe...Anon2<br /><br />Right.<br /><br />All of us really should, if we refer to something the Holy Father has said (which for me hasn't been often), preface it with "is alleged to have said" or "was reported to have said" ( at least if we don't know what the context was). <br />Georgenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7846189835239594160.post-87802161876490063412015-01-24T09:23:10.336-05:002015-01-24T09:23:10.336-05:00Rick Santorum: One of the last people who should z...Rick Santorum: One of the last people who should zing the Pope about saying strange things that make no sense.Danielnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7846189835239594160.post-6356849572043602872015-01-22T23:27:17.089-05:002015-01-22T23:27:17.089-05:00P.S. So, isn't it ironic that Rick Santorum su...P.S. So, isn't it ironic that Rick Santorum suggests that earlier comments by Pope Francis had been taken out of context? Anonymous 2noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7846189835239594160.post-67461729986579475062015-01-22T23:17:46.914-05:002015-01-22T23:17:46.914-05:00"Sometimes very difficult to listen to the Po..."Sometimes very difficult to listen to the Pope and some of the things he says off the cuff, and this is one of them," Santorum, a devout Catholic, said Tuesday.<br /><br />I agree with this statement but not for the reasons Rick Santorum implies. It is indeed difficult to listen because we have forgotten how to listen just as we have forgotten how to read. The key word is CONTEXT. You have to read and you have to listen in CONTEXT. Please go back and re-read the Pope’s remarks and do so by paying attention to all the surrounding language and paragraphs. Does the language “Some think that -- excuse the language -- that in order to be good Catholics, we have to be like rabbits” now come across the same way as it does when ripped out of context? Does it really seem that he is critical of large Catholic families per se? Not to me.<br /><br />Unfortunately, to paraphrase T.S. Eliot, nowadays so many of us would have to say “I have measured out my life with sound bites.” That is the real problem. Pity Pope Francis; he probably still knows how to read, and listen. Doubtless he did not get the memo (expressed in sound bites of course).<br />Anonymous 2noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7846189835239594160.post-4694158585532554822015-01-22T21:58:00.490-05:002015-01-22T21:58:00.490-05:00"orthodox sounding sentence or phrase"? ...<br />"orthodox sounding sentence or phrase"? <br /><br />Has the Holy Father acting in his official capacity as bishop of Rome head of the Roman Church, as pastor and teacher of all Christians, and by virtue of his supreme Apostolic authority, definitively proclaimed dogmatically or doctrinally any teaching that is not orthodox? This infallibility is not something that is invoked whenever the Pope extemporaneously expounds on, or issues an opinion on something or other. Orthodoxy is not determined by someone who listens to what the Vicar of Christ has said at a particular moment or reads what he has written. If one is not sure or does not understand what the Holy Father said or wrote you don't just take it as being unorthodox or "orthodox sounding" (implying that it may or may not be orthodox) according to one's subjective interpretation. It is possible for someone holding the Petrine office to unthinkingly or inadvertently say something which contravenes magisterial teaching, but whatever was said does not from that moment on become official teaching of the Church.<br />Georgenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7846189835239594160.post-31664576195602864702015-01-22T17:53:51.689-05:002015-01-22T17:53:51.689-05:00Anon 3:46...There's nothing Christians like mo...Anon 3:46...There's nothing Christians like more than a reformed sinner.Judennoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7846189835239594160.post-2228543645269509822015-01-22T15:49:14.939-05:002015-01-22T15:49:14.939-05:00Yes, one gets the distinct impression that he'...Yes, one gets the distinct impression that he's becoming an Ink-blot.<br /><br />Any and everyone can look at Pope Francis and declare him an ally in their ideological corner (or polyhedron).<br /><br />So the gay activists look at his "who am I to judge" and run with this as chiseled in stone, an 11th commandment validating EVERYTHING.<br /><br />Conservatives have to search the tea leaves for scraps of this or that orthodox sounding sentence or phrase or bit of a homily or off the cuff endorsement.<br /><br />Everyone is confused and doing their own thing regardless - far from marshaling forces, he's in danger of leading no one as everyone continues to go their own way.JusadBellumnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7846189835239594160.post-46693473895904295132015-01-22T15:46:25.798-05:002015-01-22T15:46:25.798-05:00From reading this post, I decided to read about Ri...From reading this post, I decided to read about Rick Santorum a bit. I found out pretty quickly that much of the news about him is, in fact news about his wife. More specifically about her rather wild years...in her twenties. Reads like one of todays seamy TV series...or yesterday's "pulp fiction". She has apparently, hopefully, changed her ways.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7846189835239594160.post-60246766351290006812015-01-22T11:07:26.210-05:002015-01-22T11:07:26.210-05:00The Pontiff suffers from poor word choice which of...The Pontiff suffers from poor word choice which often even makes the quotes, when given their context, one can quickly see how *insert particular interception of HH words* was done. Even when he's misquoted, it's well within the realm of possibilities that he could have said *insert quote here* because of how freely he speaks. Sometimes less is more, and while I certainly don't think HH will learn that lesson, I think it would help if less of his words were broadcast for the entire public to scrutinize.Православный физикhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11313371333531421128noreply@blogger.com