tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7846189835239594160.post1946187717476150757..comments2024-03-28T20:30:10.681-04:00Comments on southern orders: THE GOLDEN CALF OF ECCLESIOLOGY AND PLACING ANYTHING OR ANYONE APART FROM THE RISEN LORD AT THE CENTER OF THE CATHOLIC CHURCH IS BEING CRUSHED! SSPX MAY BE ON THE WAY TO ENJOYING FULL COMMUNION WITH THE HOLY FATHER AND THE ONE, HOLY, CATHOLIC AND APOSTOLIC CHURCHFr. Allan J. McDonaldhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16986575955114152639noreply@blogger.comBlogger11125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7846189835239594160.post-43824621398302965432012-04-18T15:25:12.450-04:002012-04-18T15:25:12.450-04:00WELL DONE SSPX! NOW YOU HAVE TIME TO REFLECT. VATI...WELL DONE SSPX! NOW YOU HAVE TIME TO REFLECT. VATICAN COUNCIL II SUPPORTS THE TRADITIONAL UNDERSTANDING OF ECUMENISM, INTER RELIGIOUS DIALOGUE AND RELIGIOUS LIBERTY <br />It's good that the SSPX has responded positively to the Doctoral Preamble and removed the threat of immediate excommunication. They now have time to reflect on there being only one interpretation of Vatican Council II possible since we do not know of any non Catholics saved in the present time in invincible ignorance,a good conscience, seeds of the Word etc.<br />So SSPX, keep rejecting the Jewish Left interpretation of Vatican Council II.<br />The liberals cannot support their interpretation with any quotation from Vatican Council II. LG 16 does not support them.<br />Whereas the SSPX can cite AG 7 as being in accord with the defined dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus and there are no known exceptions.Once it is understood that Vatican Council II embraces the literal interpretation of the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus we realize that the SSPX traditional position on ecumenism and inter religious dialogue is in agreement with Vatican Council II.<br />So we have the religious freedom according to Vatican Council II (DH) to say other religions are false paths to salvation and they do not have a moral right to profess their faith even though defacto they can and we do not force them to stop.<br />-Lionel AndradesCatholic Missionhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06025127342963192930noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7846189835239594160.post-33305413900142601282012-04-18T13:59:11.919-04:002012-04-18T13:59:11.919-04:00You have forgotten the ancient Ambrosian and Braga...You have forgotten the ancient Ambrosian and Bragan Rites, both diocesan liturgical Rites. The former is of Milan and the latter of Braga, Spain.ytcnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7846189835239594160.post-11724457856763062072012-04-18T12:51:55.114-04:002012-04-18T12:51:55.114-04:00Before Vatican II there were other Roman Rites tha...Before Vatican II there were other Roman Rites that have now been restorerd by SP. We can add to the Roman Rite part of the chart: the Carmelite Rite, Carthusian Rite,Dominican Rite, and Braga Use. I bet there are some others I have forgottenJacobnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7846189835239594160.post-63351492168155780792012-04-18T10:22:44.365-04:002012-04-18T10:22:44.365-04:00POPE CONTRADICTS BIBLE, CARDINAL LEVADA ISSUES NO ...POPE CONTRADICTS BIBLE, CARDINAL LEVADA ISSUES NO CLARIFICATION. EXPECTS OFFICAL CLARIFICATION FROM BISHOP FELLAY<br />http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2012/04/pope-contradicts-bible-cardinal-levada.htmlCatholic Missionhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06025127342963192930noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7846189835239594160.post-77146564807792132572012-04-18T09:18:09.224-04:002012-04-18T09:18:09.224-04:00Well, heck then...why not the Baptist Rite, the Me...Well, heck then...why not the Baptist Rite, the Methodist Rite, the Pass-Me-That-Viper Rite, and the Masonic Rite. Let the good times roll, Baby!!!!Genehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06672484450736725268noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7846189835239594160.post-59627752820387919672012-04-18T08:50:18.977-04:002012-04-18T08:50:18.977-04:00I will be more interested to see whether this rapp...I will be more interested to see whether this rapproachment will obligate the Pope to tighten the stays on apostate Bishops and Priests and issue strong correctives on unbelief within the walls of the Church. If it does not, then I do not expect SSPX to hang around for very long. I am, sadly, not confident...Genehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06672484450736725268noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7846189835239594160.post-82836760498042635602012-04-18T08:25:19.270-04:002012-04-18T08:25:19.270-04:00Pope John Paul II used to refer to the schism with...Pope John Paul II used to refer to the schism with the Eastern Orthodox Churches with a physical metaphor, "The Church needs to breathe with both lungs." If that is the case, the resolution of the near-schism with the SSPX is vitally important, since the Orthodox Churches will never return to the umbrella of papal authority so long as they see the Catholic Church turning against itself within by denying its Traditions and even punishing those who hold fast to them. This should be a time of joyous anticipation for ALL Catholics, because this brings us a step closer to becoming something that we've somehow lost: A Church that speaks with one voice for ALL of its members. We have lived in de facto schism for decades now, with so many Catholics rejecting much of what their Church teaches, yet enjoying (perhaps with a false sense of security) the assurance of being in "full Communion" with Rome. Pope Benedict is doing all one man possibly can to restore unity to the Church and make all of the factions into one Church that thinks with one mind. I pray he succeeds in this vital step toward Christian unity.Robert Kumpelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10567786012498143419noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7846189835239594160.post-34915934939187321572012-04-18T08:14:32.420-04:002012-04-18T08:14:32.420-04:00COMMUNIQUE OF THE PONTIFICAL COMMISSION "ECCL...COMMUNIQUE OF THE PONTIFICAL COMMISSION "ECCLESIA DEI:"<br /><br />"The text of the response of His Excellency Bp. Bernard Fellay, Superior General of the Priestly Fraternity of Saint Pius X, requested during the meeting in the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith of March 16, 2012, was delivered on April 17, 2012. This text will be examined by the Dicastery and submitted afterwards to the judgment of the Holy Father."<br /><br />More here:<br /><br />http://rorate-caeli.blogspot.com/2012/04/communique-of-pontifical-commission.htmlytcnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7846189835239594160.post-28001976760487134122012-04-18T07:48:28.241-04:002012-04-18T07:48:28.241-04:00Neocatechumenal "Rite." Puke. Their &q...Neocatechumenal "Rite." Puke. Their "style of liturgy" is being investigated right now by the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith. The Pope personally ordered Cardinal Levada recently to have the Dicastery do this. (Their catechetical materials were approved but their style of liturgy is being rejected, essentially)<br /><br />Btw, I love you comment: "What this does is to place God at the center of the Church and obedience to Him rather than placing a council, a pope or a format for participating in the churchy things of the Catholic Church at the center of of the Church."ytcnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7846189835239594160.post-40527265229875423182012-04-18T06:52:00.499-04:002012-04-18T06:52:00.499-04:00SL, all of them are. I suspect one day we'll h...SL, all of them are. I suspect one day we'll have to have under the Roman Church added rites, such as the Anglican Rite and the SSPX Rite or Tridentine Rite and maybe even the neo-cathecumenal rite!Fr. Allan J. McDonaldhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16986575955114152639noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7846189835239594160.post-3582758171468704682012-04-18T06:48:39.208-04:002012-04-18T06:48:39.208-04:00In the nifty diagram, which of the Rites are in un...In the nifty diagram, which of the Rites are in union with the Pope?<br /><br />~SqueekerLambAnonymousnoreply@blogger.com