tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7846189835239594160.post1809598183524207290..comments2024-03-28T20:30:10.681-04:00Comments on southern orders: IS THE SOUL AUTOMATICALLY IMMORTAL APART FROM GOD?Fr. Allan J. McDonaldhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16986575955114152639noreply@blogger.comBlogger7125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7846189835239594160.post-61067062532654570832018-04-01T15:55:07.386-04:002018-04-01T15:55:07.386-04:00TJM:
I want to answer carefully, because I do not...TJM:<br /><br />I want to answer carefully, because I do not wish to behave toward the Holy Father in an unfilial manner. But I think it is fair to point out that his Holiness seems quite free with insults toward those with whom hecfinds fault.<br /><br />Let us always wish the very best for the pope.Fr Martin Foxhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01375628123126091747noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7846189835239594160.post-24297851843080869982018-03-31T21:52:32.945-04:002018-03-31T21:52:32.945-04:00Father Fox,
I expect more transparency from a rel...Father Fox,<br /><br />I expect more transparency from a religious leader, than a political one. Besides, Trump's opponents are generally members of the party of Intrinsic Evil, the Democrats!! I don't think the Pope's opponents are in favor of intrinsic evil, quite the opposite. So is the Pope trying to out Faithful Catholics for ridicule? For what purpose?TJMnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7846189835239594160.post-14221357331765548562018-03-31T21:15:26.689-04:002018-03-31T21:15:26.689-04:00Bee here:
Fr. McD said, "I have always been ...Bee here:<br /><br />Fr. McD said, "I have always been a bit uncomfortable with the theology that "I send myself to hell."<br /><br />Me too, Father. Oh, I get what it means (I think). I think it means, like my mother used to say, "You made your own bed, now sleep in it." meaning, if you made bad choices there are consequences for that. Don't complain about them, or act like you didn't know there was the penalty for your bad actions. You knew right from wrong.<br /><br />So in the sense that we get what we deserve, and have chosen hell because we rejected God and His statues or will, I see how we in that sense send ourselves to hell. <br /><br />But there is no denying Scripture, especially Revelation, and some of Jesus' similitudes of the Judgement, that depict God as our final judge, Who has read the deep recesses of our hearts, Who knows our every attitude and behavior, Who knows our most private selves, and stands in judgement of us, applying His Law and precepts. He judges us according to this knowledge, bringing the core of what we are into the light, and judging us rightly, according to the truth. I believe it must be a terrifying thing to stand before the Triune God for judgement. <br /><br />But there's a wildcard of sorts. It's God's mercy. I have often heard, God's mercy is on this side of death. Take full advantage of it here, because on the other side of death is judgement, and it is exact and severe, and what was not forgiven on this side of death will be held against you on the other side.<br /><br />Now I know, the liberals in our Church just hate this kind of talk. They believe this sort of imagery just alienates sinners, and makes God out to be some kind of abusive tyrant, and people walk away from God for it, so they think. But Jesus didn't pull His punches when it comes to sin, and neither did the early Church. Waffling about the consequences of sin seems to be a symptom of this modern age which rejects authority. <br /><br />To me, soft words and nice sentiments are useless if I don't repent of my sins, or even acknowledge them. If Jesus said there will be a judgement and I will be held to account for every last penny of what I have done, I believe Him. <br /><br />Men aren't going to save me or damn me. God will, though.<br /><br />God bless.<br />BeeAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7846189835239594160.post-52030213647512289992018-03-31T14:09:10.330-04:002018-03-31T14:09:10.330-04:00Father:
I have an hypothesis for why the pope kee...Father:<br /><br />I have an hypothesis for why the pope keeps giving these interviews. He is doing something similar to what President Trump does. President Trump will tweet some wild or outrageous comment, anticipating it will send his left wing critics into a froth; and sure enough, the result serves to make them look foolish.<br /><br />So what happened in this case? The pope is being criticized for not being enough about hell and damnation. <br /><br />Consider: the pope knows what to expect if he has a conversation with Scalifari; he's been in this situation before. Also, notice the Vatican doesn't deny the conversation took place; nor does the pope flatly repudiate what the fellow claimed. The response is only that the report is "unreliable." <br /><br />None of this means the pope said what he was quoted as saying. But notice there is no shock and dismay from the Vatican. I'm beginning to wonder if the Holy Father doesn't think there's some positive value in these reports. "Hagan lio," he said: "make a mess."Fr Martin Foxhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01375628123126091747noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7846189835239594160.post-18700440357453655862018-03-31T08:59:57.417-04:002018-03-31T08:59:57.417-04:00I have always been a bit uncomfortable with the th...I have always been a bit uncomfortable with the theology that "I send myself to hell."<br /><br />I don't think I have the ability to do so, no more than I have the ability to save myself. Both notions have the common foundation, Pelagianism--neo or otherwise. <br /><br />That God sends me to hell is much more comforting, whether it is nothingness, which I kind of prefer, or the classical description for hell as an awareness of the pain and fire of separation from God for all eternity. <br /><br />I can make a mistake in sending me to hell, but God does not make mistakes in sending anyone to Hell. He knows they deserve it and for an eternity based upon the criteria for such mortal sin--full consent of the will. Fr. Allan J. McDonaldhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16986575955114152639noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7846189835239594160.post-8502306555207632092018-03-31T08:49:23.761-04:002018-03-31T08:49:23.761-04:00I wonder if rather than “apart” we used “distinct”...I wonder if rather than “apart” we used “distinct” and percieve that the Father Creator knows of and about all creation, regardless of distance. But as far lesser creatures we can be beyond our ability to ever be close to him again. Like madmen we wander in darkness, babbling about our plight until we are totally consumed by it and forget God. He is beyond our ability to know without revelation and He does not cause it. So, yes, we will be in Hell by our choice and his power. rcghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09131930849106490711noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7846189835239594160.post-44430222558152718272018-03-31T07:46:10.730-04:002018-03-31T07:46:10.730-04:00What next? I daren't read or listen to anythi...<br /><br />What next? I daren't read or listen to anything that Francis is reported to have said or done. It's like a bad dream and just when you think it couldn't get any worse it does.<br /><br />JanAnonymousnoreply@blogger.com