tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7846189835239594160.post1748133687029694318..comments2024-03-28T20:30:10.681-04:00Comments on southern orders: AD ORIENTEMPHOBIA AND COMMON SENSE ABOUT THE COMMON CHALICE COMING FROM THE ONE AND SAME BISHOP OF MANCHESTER, NEW HAMSHIREFr. Allan J. McDonaldhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16986575955114152639noreply@blogger.comBlogger12125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7846189835239594160.post-60669213994263650942016-12-06T13:29:47.231-05:002016-12-06T13:29:47.231-05:00Bee here:
Aw, thank you Dialogue. I'm blush...Bee here: <br /><br />Aw, thank you Dialogue. I'm blushing... :-)<br /><br />God bless,<br />BeeAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7846189835239594160.post-7665407457090273382016-12-06T07:36:26.129-05:002016-12-06T07:36:26.129-05:00A "Eucharistic minister" is a priest, an...A "Eucharistic minister" is a priest, and there's no such thing as an "extraordinary minister of the Eucharist". There are, however, "extraordinary ministers of Holy Communion". <br /><br />As for intinction, how can it be that a bishop prohibits something the Holy See says is always permissible? Rood Screenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09816036539243214384noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7846189835239594160.post-7057975765997584812016-12-05T21:42:31.302-05:002016-12-05T21:42:31.302-05:00Shaking hands at Mass is so pedestrian and cheapen...Shaking hands at Mass is so pedestrian and cheapens the Rite of the Pax. Intinction would be a far more reverent way of receiving both species than the current carnival approach. TJMnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7846189835239594160.post-36601329256182118302016-12-05T20:29:58.625-05:002016-12-05T20:29:58.625-05:00Is one more likely or less likely (or about the sa...Is one more likely or less likely (or about the same) to contract an illness from the common Chalice or shaking hands with several people during the offering of peace (Novus Ordo Mass)?<br /><br />During the cold/flu season, is one more likely to become ill via the common chalice or placing one's hand on a doorknob or door opener?<br /><br />It amazes me that throughout a Mass, people will sneeze and/or cough into their right hands, then shake hands with one person after another during the exchange of peace.<br /><br />As that rite is optional, I would think that at least during flu season, the rite would be suspended or the priest would announce, for example, to bow to each other rather than shake hands.<br /><br />Suspending the rite would be a good way to proceed as that would eliminate the possibility of somebody offering a handshake out of habit. (There is joke in there about habit...the only habit you won't encounter at most parishes is a "traditional" one worn by a nun.)<br /><br />Pax.<br /><br />Mark ThomasMark Thomasnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7846189835239594160.post-39090271891617767162016-12-05T19:29:48.087-05:002016-12-05T19:29:48.087-05:00I have not been a big fan of the receiving under b...I have not been a big fan of the receiving under both species, especially during a Mass with a large congregation. The over abundance of Eucharistic ministers seems to be disruptive to the Mass and offers little in saving time. The handling of the Eucharist and especially the extra vessels also often seems haphazard and irreverent. I have often wondered why Intinction was never used in this country, although others have given speculation to the reason. I would add that receiving under both species during a Mass with a few people doesn't raise the same objection as Sunday Mass. I am wary of medical advice from the internet unless it comes from a reliable MD. The same is true of liturgical advice gathered from the same internet, unless it comes from a reliable Priest.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7846189835239594160.post-20633335442775161632016-12-05T18:37:29.441-05:002016-12-05T18:37:29.441-05:00Father McDonald,
University of Maryland Medical C...Father McDonald,<br /><br />University of Maryland Medical Center<br /><br />http://umm.edu/health/medical/altmed/herb/turmeric<br /><br />"Turmeric (Curcuma longa) has been used for 4,000 years to treat a variety of conditions. Studies show that turmeric may help fight infections and some cancers, reduce inflammation, and treat digestive problems.<br /><br />Ulcerative colitis<br /><br />"Turmeric may help people with ulcerative colitis stay in remission. Ulcerative colitis is a chronic disease of the digestive tract where symptoms tend to come and go. <br /><br />"In one double-blind, placebo-controlled study, people whose ulcerative colitis was in remission took either curcumin or placebo, along with conventional medical treatment, for 6 months. Those who took curcumin had a significantly lower relapse rate than those who took placebo."<br />===================================================================<br /><br /><br />https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17101300<br /><br />Pax.<br /><br />Mark ThomasMark Thomasnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7846189835239594160.post-28782598265393602732016-12-05T17:01:55.815-05:002016-12-05T17:01:55.815-05:00I like it whenever Bee comments. It just simply a...I like it whenever Bee comments. It just simply a very pleasant, even calming, experience. "Bee here", "God bless, Bee": I love it! We could all do with being a bit more like Bee in our commenting. Rood Screenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09816036539243214384noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7846189835239594160.post-39342119012451732572016-12-05T14:32:13.527-05:002016-12-05T14:32:13.527-05:00John,
The reference you made to the English b...John,<br /> The reference you made to the English bishops' "slip" about their real reason for opposing intinction is EXACTLY (along the practical effect of banning Communion in the hand) the reason I have suspected U.S. bishops have been opposed to the regular use of intinction by priests and deacons (the ordinary ministers of Holy Communion).Joseph Johnsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00036852763902493131noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7846189835239594160.post-9707295401972574982016-12-05T14:09:07.509-05:002016-12-05T14:09:07.509-05:00Bee here:
Fr. McD, on a separate but related topi...Bee here:<br /><br />Fr. McD, on a separate but related topic: you may want to try taking coconut for your ulcerative colitis. Coconut is known to help in a variety of digestive issues, but most especially for the disorders of the colon. I'm not saying you should stop your medications, but that you can try this to help heal your colon.<br /><br />Several years ago my elderly mother developed severe diarrhea for which she was prescribed antibiotics, which did not resolve the infection or whatever she had. We were very worried, and started giving her a tablespoon of shredded coconut in yogurt. Within two days she was much better, and within five days the problem was resolved. We continued to give her the coconut as a preventative measure and never had any other issue with her bowel after that. <br /><br />https://www.peoplespharmacy.com/2010/01/02/coconut-controls-colitis/<br /><br />You can get shredded unsweetened coconut in some grocery stores in the ethnic food aisle. I find my amid the Arabic foods. Middle Easterners use it to make coconut macaroons. You can also used the sweetened coconut found in the baking aisle, but may not want the extra sugar in your diet. <br /><br />God bless.<br />BeeAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7846189835239594160.post-42121953813993084722016-12-05T11:06:18.243-05:002016-12-05T11:06:18.243-05:00Interestingly, in Continental Europe offering the ...Interestingly, in Continental Europe offering the Chalice to the laity is not routine, which seems more in the spirit of the original instruction. The UK, Irish and US bishops have opted for a wider interpretation and so it is far more widespread.<br /><br />I don't know what the situation is in the US, but the English bishops let slip a few years back that their opposition to intinction was that it would make redundant the large army of (mostly female) EMHC they had so assiduously recruited.<br /><br />Shaking hands with one's neighbours and then receiving Communion in the hand is a greater health risk. Not to mention handing round the collection plate.<br /><br />As Fr Z would say, reason # 217498 for Summorum Pontificum.<br /><br />John Nolanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09027156691859606002noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7846189835239594160.post-44738131064267786682016-12-05T09:28:46.428-05:002016-12-05T09:28:46.428-05:00Fr. Kavanaugh, then in the spirit of the Christmas...Fr. Kavanaugh, then in the spirit of the Christmas Season, please share the research. ThanksTJMnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7846189835239594160.post-74899576196913813122016-12-05T08:53:52.964-05:002016-12-05T08:53:52.964-05:00Of course, the "I'll get leprosy/AIDS/pne...Of course, the "I'll get leprosy/AIDS/pneumonia/lice/heebie-jeebies/cooties from the common cup" appears again after a long rest.<br /><br />The evidence - the scientific, clinical evidence - is out there for anyone who wants to know it.<br /><br /><br />Fr. Michael J. Kavanaughnoreply@blogger.com