tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7846189835239594160.post1661219316899625405..comments2024-03-28T20:30:10.681-04:00Comments on southern orders: HOW CAN WE MAKE INTINCTION THE NORM?Fr. Allan J. McDonaldhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16986575955114152639noreply@blogger.comBlogger31125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7846189835239594160.post-49205037943916760322018-04-25T16:53:44.291-04:002018-04-25T16:53:44.291-04:00Only in your own mind....Only in your own mind....Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7846189835239594160.post-21062157167514863722018-04-25T14:40:02.890-04:002018-04-25T14:40:02.890-04:00One last comment on the big government scam adored...One last comment on the big government scam adored by leftists and fake catholics:<br /><br />In the 1970s it was Global Cooling. The answer was to restrict industry, lower the proles' standard of living, and vastly increase government control of people's lives.<br /><br />In the 2000 it was Global Warming. The answer was to restrict industry, lower the proles' standard of living, and vastly increase government control of people's lives.<br /><br />Now it is "Climate Change". The answer is to restrict industry, lower the proles' standard of living, and vastly increase government control of people's lives.TJMnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7846189835239594160.post-8189616155470198312018-04-24T13:37:24.585-04:002018-04-24T13:37:24.585-04:00This tortured thread reminds me once again what a ...This tortured thread reminds me once again what a blessing is to attend a parish that's never gone down the slippery slope of regular communion in both kinds. And with 4 Sunday English or Latin Masses with an average attendance of perhaps 250, our 2 priests and 3 deacons ordinarily distributing only the Sacred Host, the bonus of not needing the horde of EMHC's that are the scourge of so many parishes.Henryhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12780755069760197497noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7846189835239594160.post-89555287578062260752018-04-24T12:12:21.926-04:002018-04-24T12:12:21.926-04:00Only in your mind . . .
"Activist Facts&quo...Only in your mind . . . <br /><br />"Activist Facts" takes the Union to task over the notion that we should be cautious in introducing new products for human use/consumption. "Activist" laughs at the idea that we should show, scientifically, that no significant harm might come from such a new product.<br /><br />Would that a cautious approach had been followed in the case of Thalidomide.<br /><br />Of course, fee.org might argue in a Libertarian (Pelagian) sort of way that the "market" can regulate dangerous drugs/chemicals out of our environment. After all, if a product proves to be harmful, people will stop buying/using it, right?<br /><br />Tell that to the mothers of deformed children.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7846189835239594160.post-49763248566303102452018-04-24T11:40:48.969-04:002018-04-24T11:40:48.969-04:00Kavanaugh,
LOL!! Look who's calling the kettl...Kavanaugh,<br /><br />LOL!! Look who's calling the kettle black. Here are the facts on your left-wing loon, propaganda spreading "scientific organization: <br /><br />https://www.activistfacts.com/organizations/145-union-of-concerned-scientists/TJMnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7846189835239594160.post-62957946545458216552018-04-24T10:26:14.133-04:002018-04-24T10:26:14.133-04:00Only in your mind . . .
fee.org is a Koch-Funded...Only in your mind . . . <br /><br />fee.org is a Koch-Funded, libertarian (Pelagian) "foundation" that exists to spread propaganda.<br /><br />Among its related organization is the State Policy Network (SPN) which is a major driver of ALEC, the American Legislative Exchange Council. ALEC-backed corporate agenda hijacks state legislatures nationwide, and has deep ties to the Koch brothers and the national right-wing network of funders.<br /><br />The idol of FEE and ALEC is "free enterprise."<br /><br />Catholics cannot be idol worshippers.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7846189835239594160.post-30191404969481206462018-04-24T09:52:01.885-04:002018-04-24T09:52:01.885-04:00Kavanaugh at 6:30 am, if your mind is not closed l...Kavanaugh at 6:30 am, if your mind is not closed like a trap like most global warming fanatics, chew on this:<br /><br /> https://fee.org/articles/18-spectacularly-wrong-predictions-made-around-the-time-of-the-first-earth-day-in-1970-expect-more-this-year/TJMnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7846189835239594160.post-58449840975860184102018-04-24T06:30:14.845-04:002018-04-24T06:30:14.845-04:00Thanks for your fake scientific "facts."...Thanks for your fake scientific "facts." They have been debunked time and time again.<br /><br />Only in your mind...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7846189835239594160.post-48300618390989771792018-04-23T19:48:03.500-04:002018-04-23T19:48:03.500-04:00Most times when I see a Catholic Mass from the Mid...Most times when I see a Catholic Mass from the Mideast, Intinction is the normal way of distribution of the Eucharist. Don't the Eastern Orthodox also distribute as a form of Intinction? For the Eucharistic ministers I have recently read that one of the arguments for bringing back the Diaconate was that the Priest needed help to distribute the Eucharist. The Deacon was supposed to assist, though they rarely do and because of that I do think there is some Church politics involved in limiting Intinction. Science is also influenced by politics. One common anti-religion microbiology experiment is to check Holy Water fonts for bacterial contamination and that bacterial evidence is always found. I hope that the Blessed Sacrament is not cultured for a microbiological survey! Personal Preference? Either only the Host distributed or Intinction at the larger Masses. Distribution of Host and Chalice should be limited to a few family Masses. I don't know if this puts me on the side of Fr. MJK or Fr. AJMAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7846189835239594160.post-55553062667582857212018-04-23T18:29:48.027-04:002018-04-23T18:29:48.027-04:00Kavanaugh,
Thanks for your fake scientific "...Kavanaugh,<br /><br />Thanks for your fake scientific "facts." They have been debunked time and time again. They are used by Big Government propagandists to assert more control over the canaille (or the Deplorables in Felonia Von Pantsuit's charming and compassionate lexicon) According to the High Priest of the Global Warming Religion, Al the Bore (who uses private jets, lives in a McMansion, and has a huge personal carbon footprint) New Yawk and Florida should have been underwater by now, and snow in New England was supposed to be a thing of the past. A priest who is this caught up in big government scams is one sad character and someone I would not take seriously as a priest. People (including priests) who have lost faith in themselves and God generally turn to Big Government. That worked out well for the Germans, Chinese and the Russians. TJMnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7846189835239594160.post-18524959388267817302018-04-23T18:08:59.273-04:002018-04-23T18:08:59.273-04:00The problem is easily solved by receiving the body...The problem is easily solved by receiving the body and blood of our Lord via. the host only. It is complete and fortunately allows one to avoid the lipstick and whatever else might be clinging to the cup's rim or, has mixed with the consecrated wine. ByzRushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11543580976814745615noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7846189835239594160.post-52252361743685519592018-04-23T15:52:06.578-04:002018-04-23T15:52:06.578-04:00Common sense observation:
"Showing ordinary ...Common sense observation:<br /><br />"Showing ordinary walking-around common sense is what distinguishes the typical man on the street from a progressive cleric.Henryhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12780755069760197497noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7846189835239594160.post-57661196655342500182018-04-23T15:09:42.086-04:002018-04-23T15:09:42.086-04:00Mike is usually a stickler for people who argue fr...Mike is usually a stickler for people who argue from correlation without being able to show causation. Amazingly, that requirement doesn't seem to apply to his arguments. It's almost like he's a hypocrite. Almost.Marchttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13510317669833026685noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7846189835239594160.post-74306255901474967802018-04-23T14:58:09.846-04:002018-04-23T14:58:09.846-04:00It is not the lip of the chalice per-se that is th...It is not the lip of the chalice per-se that is the problem when it comes to infection transmission. It is more in each communicant taking the chalice with their hands.<br />Take heed of the request you see posted in medical facilities:"wash your hands"-<br />"lavos las manos".Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7846189835239594160.post-3232930044285672018-04-23T13:43:08.428-04:002018-04-23T13:43:08.428-04:00"You don't need scientific dribble only c..."You don't need scientific dribble only common sense and from one trained in microbiology!"<br /><br />Doesn't that kinda sound like "You don't need scientific dribble, only common sense from one trained in neurosurgery!"<br /><br />Or "You don't need scientific dribble, only common sense from one trained in astrophysics!"<br /><br />What, precisely, do you think separates "scientific dribble" from training in microbiology one wonders....Fr. Michael J. Kavanaughnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7846189835239594160.post-78217672178701517442018-04-23T13:40:09.338-04:002018-04-23T13:40:09.338-04:00TJM asserts: "That's politics dressed up...TJM asserts: "That's politics dressed up as science."<br /><br />Sorry, but measurements of CO2 in the atmosphere are not politics.<br /><br />And neither are these data:<br />•Arctic sea ice extent is diminishing. <br />•Ocean heat content is increasing. <br />•Air temperature over ocean is increasing. <br />•Sea surface temperature is increasing. <br />•Global sea level is rising. <br />•Humidity is increasing (causing more warming). <br />•Temperature of the lower atmosphere is increasing. <br />•Air temperature over land is increasing. <br />•Snow cover is reduced, and snow is melting earlier. <br />•Glaciers are melting. <br /><br />"The redistribution of wealth" does not appear in the article I cited. I conclude you did not read it.<br />Fr. Michael J. Kavanaughnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7846189835239594160.post-43528362888705182832018-04-23T13:23:48.261-04:002018-04-23T13:23:48.261-04:00""...there has never been a documented c...""...there has never been a documented case of illness caused by sharing a chalice reported in the literature."<br /><br />And likely never will be, since definite causality in such a case is inherently unprovable. <br /><br />Reliance on such reasoning as a basis for inference illustrates the sort of scientific ignorance that a prudent person would keep hidden, rather than displaying it for all of us to see. Especially since we hardly need more evidence than we've already seen repeatedly.Henryhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12780755069760197497noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7846189835239594160.post-75332336882289188522018-04-23T12:53:11.751-04:002018-04-23T12:53:11.751-04:00Ann. @10:38, thank you for your common sense that ...Ann. @10:38, thank you for your common sense that trumps the silliness of the comment at 11:16 am. <br /><br /><br />"At any rate, with an extensive background in microbiology, I would argue that its ~probably not safe to share anything orally with tens to hundreds of people."<br /><br />You don't need scientific dribble only common sense and from one trained in microbiology!Fr. Allan J. McDonaldhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16986575955114152639noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7846189835239594160.post-30259999283552879172018-04-23T11:26:38.934-04:002018-04-23T11:26:38.934-04:00Kavanaugh,
That's politics dressed up as scie...Kavanaugh,<br /><br />That's politics dressed up as science. If you attack the premise, the true believers go bonkers. Global Warming is just a new version of Communism. How does redistributing wealth fix the planet? The US is THE leader in reducing carbon emissions via the free enterprise system. All the socialist nations are the lagers. Read this for a reality check:<br /><br />https://www.investors.com/politics/editorials/u-s-cuts-global-warming-gases-faster-than-anyone-else-but-media-ignore-it/<br /> <br />TJMnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7846189835239594160.post-49871104377158538382018-04-23T11:25:26.135-04:002018-04-23T11:25:26.135-04:00Kavanaugh,
That's politics dressed up as scie...Kavanaugh,<br /><br />That's politics dressed up as science. If you attack the premise, the true believers go bonkers. Global Warming is just a new version of Communism. How does redistributing wealth fix the planet? The US is THE leader in reducing carbon emissions via the free enterprise system. All the socialist nations are the lagers. Read this for a reality check:<br /><br />https://www.investors.com/politics/editorials/u-s-cuts-global-warming-gases-faster-than-anyone-else-but-media-ignore-it/<br /> <br />TJMnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7846189835239594160.post-74538946294708005502018-04-23T11:16:18.481-04:002018-04-23T11:16:18.481-04:00"Within the CDC, the consensus of the Nationa..."Within the CDC, the consensus of the National Center for Infectious Diseases and the National Center for Human Immunodeficiency Virus, Sexually Transmitted Diseases, and Tuberculosis is that a theoretic risk of transmitting infectious diseases by using a common communion cup exists, but that the risk is so small that it is undetectable. The CDC has not been called on to investigate any episodes or outbreaks of infectious diseases that have been allegedly linked to the use of a common communion cup."<br /><br />"In summary, the risk for infectious disease transmission by a common communion cup is very low, and appropriate safeguards-that is, wiping the interior and exterior rim between communicants, use of care to rotate the cloth during use, and use of a clean cloth for each service-would further diminish this risk."<br /><br />"UNDETECTABLE"<br /><br />http://www.ntnl.org/wp-content/uploads/2014/07/Common-Cup-CDC.pdf<br /><br />"Interest and concern that the shared communion cup may act as a vehicle for indirectly transmitting infectious disease was reawakened when the human immunodeficiency virus (HIV) was detected in the saliva of infected persons. Bacteriological experiments have shown that the occasional transmission of micro-organisms is unaffected by the alcoholic content of the wine, the constituent material of the cup or the practice of partially rotating it, but is appreciably reduced when a cloth is used to wipe the lip of the cup between communicants. Nevertheless, transmission does not necessarily imply inoculation or infection. Consideration of the epidemiology of micro-organisms that may be transmitted via saliva, particularly the herpes group of viruses, suggests that indirect transmission of infection is rare and in most instances a much greater opportunity exists for direct transmission by other means. There is substantial evidence that neither infection with hepatitis B virus nor HIV can be transmitted directly via saliva so that indirect transmission via inanimate objects is even less likely. No episode of disease attributable to the shared communion cup has ever been reported. Currently available data do not provide any support for suggesting that the practice of sharing a common communion cup should be abandoned because it might spread infection."<br /><br />"No episode of disease attributable to the shared communion cup has ever been reported."<br /><br />https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/3284951<br /><br />"Finally, in 1998 the CDC reported there had never been an outbreak of infection related to the communion cup.23 They referenced a study from 1997 in which 681 participants who drank daily from a common cup were at no higher risk of infection than those who participated less frequently or who completely abstained from Christian services. They concluded that it is probably safe to participate in services where a common cup is used, with the caveat that any member of the congregation with active respiratory illness or open labial or mouth sores abstain from partaking.23<br /><br />In conclusion, there is experimental evidence suggesting that sharing a communion cup contaminates the wine and cup. However, there has never been a documented case of illness caused by sharing a chalice reported in the literature."<br /><br />"...there has never been a documented case of illness caused by sharing a chalice reported in the literature."<br /><br />https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S1201971213001872<br /><br />Fr. Michael J. Kavanaughnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7846189835239594160.post-521893412456138212018-04-23T10:53:42.056-04:002018-04-23T10:53:42.056-04:00Good point Henry, just yesterday a Precious Blood ...Good point Henry, just yesterday a Precious Blood was spiked on our floor by accident giving the other meaning to the Catholic word accident!Fr. Allan J. McDonaldhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16986575955114152639noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7846189835239594160.post-3524029675573602212018-04-23T10:46:12.889-04:002018-04-23T10:46:12.889-04:00TJM - Well, actually, religion relies on faith, a ...TJM - Well, actually, religion relies on faith, a supernatural gift, while science relies on facts that are supported with evidence and analysis. So the idea that I, or anyone, has an idea of a science based on religion is just silly.<br /><br />A good article, with lots of evidence, about the human contribution to climate change (aka global warming) can be found here:<br /><br />https://www.ucsusa.org/global-warming/science-and-impacts/science/human-contribution-to-gw-faq.html#.Wt3wsExFw5sFr. Michael J. Kavanaughnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7846189835239594160.post-88862177584790252842018-04-23T10:38:15.427-04:002018-04-23T10:38:15.427-04:00"Are you going to stop driving because there ..."Are you going to stop driving because there are drunks behind the wheel all over creation? Of course not."<br /><br />I find this to be a poor argument. No one is saying to abstain from receiving Our Lord, present in the sacrament. Of course, the Eucharist contains the fullness of the Body, Blood, Soul, and Divinity of our Blessed Lord and so the sacred vessel is not a requirement for the laity as it contains all the same as well. That being said, am I the only one that's more concerned about the confusion the laity has over the Eucharistic presence in these forms from lack of Catechesis and poor treatment of the sacred vessels by anyone who wants to waltz up to the altar like they own the place? <br /><br />At any rate, with an extensive background in microbiology, I would argue that its ~probably not safe to share anything orally with tens to hundreds of people. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7846189835239594160.post-7598373096443497862018-04-23T10:27:36.966-04:002018-04-23T10:27:36.966-04:00It's not best to do superior things for inferi...It's not best to do superior things for inferior reasons. The reason communion from a common chalice in the current fashion was done away with over a millenium ago was not to avoid feared spread of disease, but because of increased reverence for the sacred species. This is still the best reason, especially now that communion in both kinds is employed primarily as a pretext for requiring otherwise unnecessary EMHC's--desired for ideological reasons (being mostly female)--and involves other abuses.Henryhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12780755069760197497noreply@blogger.com