My First Comment: Anyone who believes in natural law will be marginalized by folks such as the group GLAAD and called outdated and bigoted. Then they will proceed to change the meaning of the word "marriage" to accomodate what could in fact been seen as a good if only it wasn't called marriage: "committed (unmarried) couples who want to make a lifelong promise to take care of and be responsible for each other..." One would hope in the most chaste and religious way possible. But to call same sex partnerships of the "committed type" marriage makes a mockery out of marriage as defined by God prehistorically, in the Garden of Eden between Adam and Eve--it is as "old as dirt" as Cameron points out.
FROM YAHOO'S HOLLYWOOD REPORTER: GLAAD Fires Back After 'Growing Pains' Star Kirk Cameron Calls Homosexuality 'Unnatural'
Former Growing Pains star Kirk Cameron is taking heat from GLAAD after remarks made on CNN's Piers Morgan Tonight.
During Friday's interview, Cameron called homosexuality "unnatural" and "destructive."
"I think that it's unnatural. I think that it's detrimental and ultimately destructive to so many of the foundations of civilization," the actor, who played Mike Seaver on the 1980s TV series, said on the program.
Cameron, who is an evangelical Christian, also spoke out against gay marriage.
"Marriage is almost as old as dirt, and it was defined in the garden between Adam and Eve. One man, one woman for life till death do you part. So I would never attempt to try to redefine marriage. And I don't think anyone else should either," Cameron said. "So do I support the idea of gay marriage? No, I don't."
The Gay & Lesbian Alliance Against Defamation issued a statement in response to the actor's recent appearance on the CNN program.
“In this interview, Kirk Cameron sounds even more dated than his 1980s TV character,” said Herndon Graddick, senior director of programs at GLAAD, in a statement. “Cameron is out of step with a growing majority of Americans, particularly people of faith who believe that their gay and lesbian brothers and sisters should be loved and accepted based on their character and not condemned because of their sexual orientation.”
Graddick also addressed Cameron's remarks regarding gay marriage: “With an increasing number of states recognizing marriage equality, Americans are seeing that marriage is about committed couples who want to make a lifelong promise to take care of and be responsible for each other and that gay and lesbian couples need equal security and legal protections. That’s not ‘redefining’ anything."
My final comments: Our godless secular culture's war on Natural Law and orthodox religious beliefs uses half truths to marginalize and ridicule their opponents. They'll stop at nothing and there will be no apologies for the offenses they offer, unlike Rush Limbaugh who did apologize for his crude, uncharitable and sinful remarks to the Georgetown Law student. You'll find no such apologies from the likes of Bill Maher who has the most foul mouthed and insulting comments to make about others who oppose his liberal views and his bashing of Christians in general and Catholics in particular.
I fear same sex "marriage" will become the law of the land unless the Supreme Court rules otherwise. If it does what do we do as Catholics? We call same sex unions precisely what they are, same sex legal partnerships, just as we call the second marriage of anyone who still has a first spouse living and their marriage is not annulled by the Church, legal unions, not sacramental marriages.
The Church has to change its "traditional view" of the authority of the state regarding Sacramental Marriage, meaning the Church today and in the past had cooperate with the legitimate authority of the sate and with the laws of the state in the regulating of marriage (which at one time presumed Judeo-Christian antecedents in civil law, but no longer do in many states). A major shift has occurred and the Church so no longer allow the state the authority to regulate marriage as a sacrament--it can only do so for legal partnerships that the state might call a "marriage" but which according to divine law may not be as the state defines what "marriage is" contrary to Divine Law revealed through natural law.
Concretely what this means is that the Church should eventually require Catholics to take care of the "civil law" aspect of their "legal union" under the laws of the state, meaning they procure a civil "marriage" license (which is really a legal partnership license to fulfill state requirements for legal benefits) and then the Catholic would have to have that "civil" partnership recognized by the state in the presence of a state civil official such as the Notary Public, probate judge or some other licensed official--but not a priest or deacon.
Then that frees the priest or deacon to celebrate Marriage once the state's requirements for legal benefits is granted. The actual marriage, the Sacrament of Holy Matrimony, in the Church then does not require the priest to sign any civil license as the "officiant for the state" since the clergy of the Church are not "civil servants" of the state.
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I do not agree that Rush's remarks were sinfuland uncharitable. I believe they were quite correct and I do not believe he should have apologized. In fact, I was rather disappointed that he did so. But, hey, that's just me...
Slandering someone is a verbal sin and writing about someone in an uncharitable way and libel is the sin of written slander.
Calling someone a slut and a prostitute on national radio and in no way from a religious point of view of calling such a person to repentance through loving chastisement is a mortal sin pure and simple. The sin is the sin against love or charity. This is in no way venial, because it is serious matter.
Our public and written discourse today has become so seriously compromised that I think it is a mortal sin, no matter how insignificant the uncharitable act is.
FrAJM, your recommendation is brilliant. Please share with your Bishop. The Church should immediately DIRECT priests NOT to sign another marriage license. The Church should conduct marrrage as a Sacrament only. This is what the Gay Rights people should be doing anyway.
I agree that public discourse has degraded to unacceptable levels. But if that is the first time that woman has heard herself referred to in that manner she also needs public assistance for hearing aids.
rcg
Natural Law is NOT the basis of Divine Truth.
Divine Truth is the basis for Natural law.
That's a good point, but anyone studying natural law can then discover divine law, you don't have to be a Catholic or a Christian, an atheist or an agnostic can discover divine law through natural law. Yes, you are right, Divine Law is the basis of natural law! I stand corrected.
I am struck by the fact that the response from the Homosexual Advocacy Group to Kirk's statements were along the lines of "He's out of step with the majority"...what the hell does majority have to do with anything?
In the words of JPII, "Truth is not always the same thing as majority Opinion".
FR., I think Rush was speaking in her frame of reference and with irony. Public taxes paying for birth control is, in effect, paying people to have sex. Last time I checked, that is prostitution. The girl is, well, slutty...
I love the "majority" qualifier.
I am pretty sure that the majority of people I know would agree with Cameron on this topic.
But the advocacy group's accuracy regarding such a broad scope statement is never questioned.
I know I haven't been polled. lol
Pin, I agree that Rush was speaking with irony, but on the other hand, he should know as well as anyone how sorely crippled our educational system is, and how few therefore comprehend irony. After all, look at how few people were outraged that voter equality is apparently only applicable to non-whites.
As to the GLAAD comment, truth is never out of date, but scandal and mortal sin are never fashionable. In any time they appear to be, you can be sure that depravity has replaced righteousness in the society at large.
Odd, too, how quickly the left takes umbrage, considering that slander, libel, and ad hominem are their standard tools.
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